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Jim Ratto
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Re: Engines....
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Reply #60 on:
December 18, 2010, 01:12:08 am »
the latest 2165cc
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DKK Ted
DKK
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Posts: 1879
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Reply #61 on:
December 18, 2010, 01:37:20 am »
Hey Art, the sumps I'm talking about were deeper, Doug sectioned 2 sumps to make the deeper sumps. The sump in the pic below, if you notice is STILL a 3 1/2 qt sump, the 2 that I'm talking about is almost as deep as the 4qt sump. Lots of oil. But remember, those tubes takes away oil for tubes with air. Would be interesting how this version will work on the street with the air going through. I would talk to Doug or Mark, Bill Boa (can't remember his last name, you know him) the guy in Nevada has one unless he sold it. He's in DKP II I believe. Maybe if he sees this post he'lll chime in. Always like that idea of those 2 vented sumps. Any vented sump, if it works.
Ted
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DKK Ted
DKK
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Posts: 1879
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Reply #62 on:
December 18, 2010, 01:52:02 am »
So
The Action Is Go
, what the specs of your motor, what kind of numbers did ya get on the GBE dyno? Like the set-up, very old school. When you get it in the car, let us know how it worked with that sump, would interesting to find out.
Ted
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The Action Is Go
Jr. Member
Posts: 85
Re: Engines....
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Reply #63 on:
December 18, 2010, 04:00:54 am »
The earlier/old school the better. The only change to the engine is it will have a generator.
82 x 90.5 wedgemated Berg
Carrillo rods
K-10
Berg 50's
Gary only did a few passes and best was 198hp with 010 point float (before the Stinger ignition). The sump was leaking from one of the tubes so it was plugged. Haven't looked at it since.
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Rick Meredith
DKK
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Posts: 5312
We can't force ya to have fun
Re: Engines....
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Reply #64 on:
December 18, 2010, 04:16:10 am »
Quote from: Jason Foster on December 17, 2010, 18:41:59 pm
I see you have one of those trick 2 piece racing cranks!
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Rick Meredith
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Reply #65 on:
December 18, 2010, 04:20:37 am »
Great thread.... I must study this in detail!
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danny gabbard
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gabfab
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Reply #66 on:
December 18, 2010, 04:25:00 am »
WOW, what a bitch ! Kinda weird it split down the middle. But it was probably a kick in the ass fun while it lasted !! I just gotta ask, Who did the crank ? and anything saveable??
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bilboa2
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Posts: 240
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Reply #67 on:
December 18, 2010, 05:24:04 am »
hey ted, it's bill rodgers. DKP 2, yes , doug made my sump a while back. Ran it with my 2332 k10. Holds a ton of oil , well over 4 qrts, can't remember exactly. Cooled/worked well . New motor, same clyde heads. 2442 fk46 cam. dyno time only, 181 hp, uncorrected, w/belt and muffler, at 4800 ft elevation. 9-1. went to 1 5/8 exh from 1 3/4, do to altitude here......I think doug said he made 4 sumps total, thought he said he pressure tested them all..See him next weekend, will ask ?? bill
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bilboa2
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Reply #68 on:
December 18, 2010, 05:27:58 am »
oops, better sump pics.. bill
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bilboa2
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Reply #69 on:
December 18, 2010, 05:33:06 am »
oops again, wrong apron shot, dam..
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DKK Ted
DKK
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Posts: 1879
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Reply #70 on:
December 18, 2010, 05:40:22 am »
Quote from: bilboa2 on December 18, 2010, 05:24:04 am
hey ted, it's bill rodgers. DKP 2, yes , doug made my sump a while back. Ran it with my 2332 k10. Holds a ton of oil , well over 4 qrts, can't remember exactly. Cooled/worked well . New motor, same clyde heads. 2442 fk46 cam. dyno time only, 181 hp, uncorrected, w/belt and muffler, at 4800 ft elevation. 9-1. went to 1 5/8 exh from 1 3/4, do to altitude here......I think doug said he made 4 sumps total, thought he said he pressure tested them all..See him next weekend, will ask ?? bill
Hey Bill, how ya doing?? When I was there, I thought he made 2? Unless he made 2 more after I had left, or just wasn't paying attention. Hows the car itself coming along? That pic of your motor, is that now or before? I knew it was deeper. Anyway, you take care, talk ta ya soon.
Ted
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bilboa2
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Reply #71 on:
December 18, 2010, 06:21:42 am »
ted, motor pics are 2442. thing shroud, going with compufire ign , coil pack out of eng compartment, plug wires thru firewall. pics to follow are of ken tabers duck hunting vw shop/ranch in stillwater nv. ken is good freind of bergs thru the years, retired dentist. His vw thing has a 2386 fk41 motor, beehive spring with berg bus 5 speed in it. Mud covered baja has a 20 plus year old 2332 fk65 with bus gear reduction box. ranch truck . ken recommended the fk65 cam spec to gene along with the k10 years ago.Shop has stutska dyno, flow bench ,hoist, etc other half of shop is for gun reloading etc. His air duck boat has a special designed 2332 vw power plant. One smart guy...Great cook too, has a restaurant grade kitchen set up in his ranch house. AND.... the patience to help me build/dyno my first motor... bill
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kingsburgphil
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Reply #72 on:
December 18, 2010, 06:59:09 am »
Quote from: bilboa2 on December 18, 2010, 05:27:58 am
oops, better sump pics.. bill
Love the sump..When can I buy one? I've always been a sucker for 1920's technology
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1957lowlight
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Philip Steenackers
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Reply #73 on:
December 18, 2010, 07:07:10 am »
Just an ordinary 1915cc callook street engine...
Philip
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kingsburgphil
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Reply #74 on:
December 18, 2010, 08:12:57 am »
A work in progress.
Is it Form follows Function or vice verse?
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Jason Foster
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Reply #75 on:
December 18, 2010, 17:33:39 pm »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on December 18, 2010, 00:40:42 am
Another welded crank?
Quote from: danny gabbard on December 18, 2010, 04:25:00 am
WOW, what a bitch ! Kinda weird it split down the middle. But it was probably a kick in the ass fun while it lasted !! I just gotta ask, Who did the crank ? and anything saveable??
Zach, no new crank will be Bugpack forged.
Danny, Internals are all done, heads are ok though.
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jaqo
Full Member
Posts: 168
Bugster Team
Re: Engines....
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Reply #76 on:
December 18, 2010, 19:22:15 pm »
4 Inch bore
Can't find any decent photo of it in the car, here you can see something
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2manytoys
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Posts: 397
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Reply #77 on:
December 18, 2010, 19:49:37 pm »
Does it have to be in a Bug?
borrowed picture
race motor
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Elnef
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Posts: 566
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Reply #78 on:
December 21, 2010, 06:18:18 am »
I have this one in my 62
And the other one in my race car
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
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Reply #79 on:
December 21, 2010, 07:25:36 am »
a few
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Re: Engines....
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Reply #80 on:
December 21, 2010, 07:51:36 am »
Man that has more plumbing than an entire Home Depot store!
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67 Beetle - The Deuce Roadster of Cal Look
Nico86
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Posts: 6354
Turnip engine.
Re: Engines....
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Reply #81 on:
December 22, 2010, 22:37:43 pm »
Quote from: DKK_Fred on December 16, 2010, 05:26:42 am
Somewhere, we have a thread or two about that.
Here it is :
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,6584.0.html
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cassa
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Posts: 59
Re: Engines....
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Reply #82 on:
December 23, 2010, 12:07:42 pm »
Here is my street engine.
There is still some plumbing to do, but its getting there.
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Jim Ratto
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Reply #83 on:
December 23, 2010, 17:23:42 pm »
Cassa, looks impressive.... tell us more about it please.
Jim
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StrokerMcDell
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Reply #84 on:
December 23, 2010, 17:42:26 pm »
Marty bench running my current race motor.
http://www.youtube.com/v/6Cz-YiaUlB8
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cassa
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Posts: 59
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December 23, 2010, 19:03:30 pm »
Quote from: Careful With That Axe Eugene on December 23, 2010, 17:23:42 pm
Cassa, looks impressive.... tell us more about it please.
Jim
Thanks!
I started on this engine some 10 years ago, then got tired of the VW-scene and put it away, found new spirit some years ago to finish it. Mostly done in my small shed :-) A little cold now so I moved it indoors..
Its a 2387 based on a WBX case, with an old Pauter crank and Crower rods . Old S/F heads modified for turbo. Turbo spec cam by Skinne, TWM 55mm throttle bodies, dual watercooled intercoolers. 1600cc injectors for E85.
Built for the street with Drysump, piston oil squirter's, full cooling with internal vanes, and so on. but will see the track!
Smallish turbo compared to many racers...
reg
C
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banditina
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Posts: 307
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December 24, 2010, 03:39:33 am »
http://stinkingass.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-09-10T14%3A36%3A00%2B02%3A00&max-results=10&reverse-paginate=true
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Y5VU-NeoWo
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DKK
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Reply #87 on:
December 24, 2010, 04:06:13 am »
Quote from: bilboa2 on December 18, 2010, 05:33:06 am
oops again, wrong apron shot, dam..
Say Bill, is that the firewall that Andy (RIP) did for ya back when?
Ted
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bilboa2
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Reply #88 on:
December 24, 2010, 07:29:11 am »
ted, yep. Andy set a curtain rod with holes drilled in it, using it as a fence/template then using the drill press by hand pressure with a burnishing bit.Took about 4 hours, made a few mistakes, but luckily they are low and behind shroud. Very patient man Andy was.
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Brian H
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Reply #89 on:
December 25, 2010, 00:27:12 am »
My new 2027 engine
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