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« on: May 16, 2011, 06:24:14 am »
What's  the goin rate in So Cal for headliner install...? cars not painted but it's lookin like a few years anyway...But need to get one in for the time being till I do ..!...Also who sells the best fitting ..?
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 06:52:31 am »
Say Randy, try Collins in La Habra, off Lambert Rd. There the ones that did my seats. I have business cars, I'll give ya one, won't hurt to ask.

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 10:42:26 am »
Well I'm sure it's gonna be pricey....!!!..but can't hurt to ask !
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 14:51:48 pm »
I'd be curious to know what the going rate is in SoCal as well, let us know.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 14:57:48 pm »
Don`t know about So Cal but here in Cen Cal it`s about $300.00.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 15:20:49 pm »
Frank's upolstery in Whittier quoted me $325, and say's he makes his own. I've seen his work and it is very nice.
He's behind the Taco Bell on Whittier and Greenleaf.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 18:13:57 pm »
Quote from: Bryan67 on May 16, 2011, 14:57:48 pm
Don`t know about So Cal but here in Cen Cal it`s about $300.00.

Wow, in that case a buddy of mine in Eugene is getting ripped off... a local well known rod shop upholster is charging him like $600... Huh
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 19:52:28 pm »
I think what I want is a pre-made ( like Tmi or West coast metric ) headliner for now untill just till paint it which will be a few years down the line (unless I win the " lottery ") then it will be torn out and a "Good" one installed...I just hate my old one it looks nasty ... Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 20:08:23 pm »
do it like this. it'll only cost a few $.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 20:28:06 pm »
It certainly makes a Statement.
But What, I can't say ...
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2011, 20:47:56 pm »
Quote from: bugnut68 on May 16, 2011, 18:13:57 pm
Quote from: Bryan67 on May 16, 2011, 14:57:48 pm
Don`t know about So Cal but here in Cen Cal it`s about $300.00.

Wow, in that case a buddy of mine in Eugene is getting ripped off... a local well known rod shop upholster is charging him like $600... Huh

There's a lot of factors. Kit or made up from yardage? Stock (muliti piece) is more labor intensive than a one piece style and costs more. Sunroofs cost more. Cloth is harder to get right and someone may charge more for that. Also, is the upholsterer pulling all the glass/trim and re-installing with new rubber/trim/visors/etc? Or is he just installing a headliner in a bare car and giving it back to the customer? I usually take the opportunity to replace the carpet on the rear wheel wells and firewall at the same time, since it needs to be pulled up anyway. And if the headliner is crap, usually that carpet is, too. If it's a '68 and later car, the windshield needs to be pulled, rubber replaced, etc. Stock trim in the rubber or cal look style? As you can see, it can easily cost $600 or more...
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2011, 21:01:14 pm »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on May 16, 2011, 20:47:56 pm
Quote from: bugnut68 on May 16, 2011, 18:13:57 pm
Quote from: Bryan67 on May 16, 2011, 14:57:48 pm
Don`t know about So Cal but here in Cen Cal it`s about $300.00.

Wow, in that case a buddy of mine in Eugene is getting ripped off... a local well known rod shop upholster is charging him like $600... Huh

There's a lot of factors. Kit or made up from yardage? Stock (muliti piece) is more labor intensive than a one piece style and costs more. Sunroofs cost more. Cloth is harder to get right and someone may charge more for that. Also, is the upholsterer pulling all the glass/trim and re-installing with new rubber/trim/visors/etc? Or is he just installing a headliner in a bare car and giving it back to the customer? I usually take the opportunity to replace the carpet on the rear wheel wells and firewall at the same time, since it needs to be pulled up anyway. And if the headliner is crap, usually that carpet is, too. If it's a '68 and later car, the windshield needs to be pulled, rubber replaced, etc. Stock trim in the rubber or cal look style? As you can see, it can easily cost $600 or more...

Don't know all the details, but I'm pretty sure the car just came out of the paint shop with no windows installed or anything, and my buddy and his family are doing most of the interior themselves. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2011, 22:31:03 pm »
I was looking at a few videos ....looks like ya gotta take your time...my headliner now was a done by" a do-it-your-selfer " before me..so it looks like crap..!!...on the headliner now the front windshield won't have to come out just the popouts & rear glass which is not really sittin right as it is !...my car is a 67 not sure what is the correct headliner should like like ...?
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 22:35:49 pm »
Wolfsburg West will see you the correct original style headliner, with the seperate section that goes around the rear window. If you want a cleaner/different look, you can get the one piece style that makes the rear window section one with the main headliner portion.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 23:36:53 pm »
Zack, Would you ever use spray adhesive out of a can ? Verse spraying from gun. and is there any good can adhesive? I am going to install my own, I dont want to buy a 5 gallon can of adhesive and gun and preasure pot to do one or two headliners if ya know what I mean. Is the 3m stuff in a can good enough? And if not what would you use? I dont want the stuff to fail 6 months later. Thanks
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2011, 00:39:31 am »
For what it's worth, I used to do all the interiors (from pre-sewn kits) back when we built cars ... and, I always install my personal interiors.
I found the aerosol adhesives can work OK, especially for light trim pieces. But, for the main section(s) I like to use that Weldwood contact cement/adhesive sold at Home Depot and such.
I know its lame, but I use a brush to spread it on just where needed on both surfaces, then use a heat-gun to 'cure' it before sticking it down for Good. I feel the heat-gun is the key to the adhesive working well ... Much better than without.
Also, used conservatively, most any wrinkles can be worked out as you pin it down.
I used to hate doing headliners, but now I think its kinda fun ...
Then again, I haven't charged anyone to do one in quite a while.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2011, 01:45:30 am »
I personally wouldn't trust anything out of a can to hold anything important and/or heavy. We use a cheap siphon gun and contact cement for headliners, carpet, etc. It's not only the glue failing in 6 months you have to worry about, it's the fact that the spray glue just doesnt have the holding power that contact cement has. You can really pull on the headliner and it will stick where you want it to with contact cement. I always glue both sides, then heat the vinyl while the glue tacks up. Gotta be careful with too much heat and perforated vinyl though!
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2011, 04:08:56 am »
I`ve used 3M super 90 spray glue for carpet and it works good but it`s $15.00 a can and I probably used like 6 cans to do it. So, buying a spray gun and a bucket of glue may not be so bad after all. And as far as that porno headliner goes.... have you looked at the price a good Club magazine???
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2011, 05:57:05 am »
Zack, when you use a siphon style gun , Did you change any parts like the noozle and air cap from painting to adhesive or will adhesive come out ?Do you need to thin adhesive ?
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2011, 08:03:37 am »
Anybody have any pics of their headliners...??.... I'd like to see a few...!!.....Zack ,Tom...?...Anybody possibly 67's...?
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2011, 19:29:04 pm »
Quote from: Kaferdog on May 16, 2011, 22:31:03 pm
I was looking at a few videos ....looks like ya gotta take your time...my headliner now was a done by" a do-it-your-selfer " before me..so it looks like crap..!!...on the headliner now the front windshield won't have to come out just the popouts & rear glass which is not really sittin right as it is !...my car is a 67 not sure what is the correct headliner should like like ...?


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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2011, 01:46:50 am »
Art ...I didn't see anything...?... Huh
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2011, 02:58:30 am »
Quote from: Kaferdog on May 17, 2011, 08:03:37 am
Anybody have any pics of their headliners...??.... I'd like to see a few...!!.....Zack ,Tom...?...Anybody possibly 67's...?

'67 Sunroof
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,5626.330.html

'70 Sunroof
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,13356.0.html
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2011, 09:12:59 am »
Quote from: ST DRAGN on May 17, 2011, 19:29:04 pm
Quote from: Kaferdog on May 16, 2011, 22:31:03 pm
I was looking at a few videos ....looks like ya gotta take your time...my headliner now was a done by" a do-it-your-selfer " before me..so it looks like crap..!!...on the headliner now the front windshield won't have to come out just the popouts & rear glass which is not really sittin right as it is !...my car is a 67 not sure what is the correct headliner should like like ...?


Randy-Check your email..
Art I found it...Aol was dickin me around it some how got marked as Spam...?...Got the email ...Many thanks !
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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2011, 09:13:22 am »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on May 18, 2011, 02:58:30 am
Quote from: Kaferdog on May 17, 2011, 08:03:37 am
Anybody have any pics of their headliners...??.... I'd like to see a few...!!.....Zack ,Tom...?...Anybody possibly 67's...?

'67 Sunroof
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,5626.330.html

'70 Sunroof
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,13356.0.html
Zach......Thanks for the pics...Much appreciated...I remember this thread awhile back
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