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Rocket Ron
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #60 on:
November 30, 2015, 22:05:56 pm »
Quote from: richie on November 28, 2015, 18:21:02 pm
So far majority of feedback I have got is for
Class A total street cars, must be pump fuel, have muffler/silencer, Euro kite mark tires and run same as they do on cruise, but for Goose fanbelt can be removed before or on your pass
I actually think allowing the removal of fan belt on some cars is good idea as not everyone will have a welded fan and we don't need any fan explosions
Class B Everything else, but must complete cruise
Then trophy for quickest in
Class A Normally aspirated
Class A Power adder[turbo, nitrous, supercharger etc]
Class B N/A
Class B Power adder/adders
And finally the Big trophy/cake for the person that has the most fun
This looks like a good starting point, think minimum two front seats, pump gas, normal radial tires, muffler and mot certificate for class a and class a power added. Belt on or off as could be run loose enough to not make much difference
class b whatever turns you on
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #61 on:
December 01, 2015, 14:31:53 pm »
Quote from: Ron Elliot on November 30, 2015, 22:05:56 pm
This looks like a good starting point, think minimum two front seats, pump gas, normal radial tires, muffler and mot certificate for class a and class a power added. Belt on or off as could be run loose enough to not make much difference
class b whatever turns you on
Ron,
thanks for input and would be good to see you with car their
I don't want to go down the mot route, given pre 60 cars don't need one, they are worthless 10 mins after test is finished on cars that do and any foreign cars documentation wouldn't mean anything to me it seems simpler to put emphasis on owner to be responsible to bring a legal car, given we cant check tax discs at track in a practical way, just easier to make sure they got the sensible stuff like lights, indicators, wipers etc and leave it alone.
Belt will be down to driver for sure, not going to worry about checking every car and you make a good point of leaving it loose enough to make no difference
cheers Richie
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #62 on:
December 01, 2015, 18:57:25 pm »
Pre-60 cars can still be MOT'd though. I'd say that it's a minimal price to pay to help create a level playing field. Plus that whole thing of no MOTs for pre-60 cars is stupid anyway. But, hey, you know best!
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #63 on:
December 01, 2015, 19:02:01 pm »
Quote from: richie on December 01, 2015, 14:31:53 pm
Quote from: Ron Elliot on November 30, 2015, 22:05:56 pm
This looks like a good starting point, think minimum two front seats, pump gas, normal radial tires, muffler and mot certificate for class a and class a power added. Belt on or off as could be run loose enough to not make much difference
class b whatever turns you on
Ron,
thanks for input and would be good to see you with car their
I don't want to go down the mot route, given pre 60 cars don't need one, they are worthless 10 mins after test is finished on cars that do and any foreign cars documentation wouldn't mean anything to me it seems simpler to put emphasis on owner to be responsible to bring a legal car, given we cant check tax discs at track in a practical way, just easier to make sure they got the sensible stuff like lights, indicators, wipers etc and leave it alone.
Belt will be down to driver for sure, not going to worry about checking every car and you make a good point of leaving it loose enough to make no difference
cheers Richie
Fair point on the mot and tax
I'm sure everyone will abide by the spirit of the class structure anyway, should be fun
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #64 on:
December 02, 2015, 10:23:47 am »
I'm happy with the way it is as currently proposed, and it is in keeping with the spirit of the Cal Look Drag Day.
Let's keep it simple and rely on the camaraderie of our fellow racers and enthusiasts, which has never been anything other than 100%, as I hope anyone who has attended CLDD to date would agree.
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #65 on:
December 02, 2015, 12:48:12 pm »
Quote from: kaferboy on December 02, 2015, 10:23:47 am
I'm happy with the way it is as currently proposed, and it is in keeping with the spirit of the Cal Look Drag Day.
Let's keep it simple and rely on the camaraderie of our fellow racers and enthusiasts, which has never been anything other than 100%, as I hope anyone who has attended CLDD to date would agree.
Do we have a date yet for CLDD mate?
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #66 on:
December 02, 2015, 15:17:37 pm »
Quote from: Tufty65 on December 02, 2015, 12:48:12 pm
Quote from: kaferboy on December 02, 2015, 10:23:47 am
I'm happy with the way it is as currently proposed, and it is in keeping with the spirit of the Cal Look Drag Day.
Let's keep it simple and rely on the camaraderie of our fellow racers and enthusiasts, which has never been anything other than 100%, as I hope anyone who has attended CLDD to date would agree.
Do we have a date yet for CLDD mate?
No but we're very very close to having it agreed!
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #67 on:
December 03, 2015, 01:26:03 am »
Quote from: kaferboy on December 02, 2015, 10:23:47 am
I'm happy with the way it is as currently proposed, and it is in keeping with the spirit of the Cal Look Drag Day.
Let's keep it simple and rely on the camaraderie of our fellow racers and enthusiasts, which has never been anything other than 100%, as I hope anyone who has attended CLDD to date would agree.
Got it in a nut shell Jamie.
top work richie, love the format and im sure it will be a fantastic addition to CLDD!
Keep usp the good work
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #68 on:
December 04, 2015, 09:25:38 am »
Quote from: richie on November 30, 2015, 14:51:15 pm
Rich
I am thinking leave within 30mins of track closing on Saturday afternoon/evening, you have done this type thing with street eliminator, is that enough time to get everyone ready?
Was hoping it would appeal to you
cheers Richie
Thinking about it if it's at the Pod earlier is better as you know how jittery they are about noise curfews, do they close the gates at a certain time on RWYB sessions? Street eliminator are given an hour from the last qualifier to being ready to leave from the gate, 30 mins should be enough time to pump the tyres, throw some extra fuel in and check the motor over ready for a cruise. So long as everyone knows when the departure time is they can ready themselves.
Someone mentioned stopping for food, this could be a logistical nightmare, I'd say just do the cruise on it's own and keep it simple. The street eliminator route at for Santa Pod is dead simple nice flowing roads, not done the Shakey one yet (
) but can find out if you would like?
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, possible Street car shoot out
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Reply #69 on:
December 04, 2015, 10:05:10 am »
Quote from: Turbo_Rich on December 04, 2015, 09:25:38 am
Quote from: richie on November 30, 2015, 14:51:15 pm
Rich
I am thinking leave within 30mins of track closing on Saturday afternoon/evening, you have done this type thing with street eliminator, is that enough time to get everyone ready?
Was hoping it would appeal to you
cheers Richie
Thinking about it if it's at the Pod earlier is better as you know how jittery they are about noise curfews, do they close the gates at a certain time on RWYB sessions? Street eliminator are given an hour from the last qualifier to being ready to leave from the gate, 30 mins should be enough time to pump the tyres, throw some extra fuel in and check the motor over ready for a cruise. So long as everyone knows when the departure time is they can ready themselves.
Someone mentioned stopping for food, this could be a logistical nightmare, I'd say just do the cruise on it's own and keep it simple. The street eliminator route at for Santa Pod is dead simple nice flowing roads, not done the Shakey one yet (
) but can find out if you would like?
Rich,
thanks for that
and yes can you send me info on both routes please? or post them up is fine so as to get other peoples thoughts as well
cheers Richie
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #70 on:
December 04, 2015, 13:08:02 pm »
If you only could include a engine size handicap system
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richie
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #71 on:
December 04, 2015, 15:30:09 pm »
Quote from: BeetleBug on December 04, 2015, 13:08:02 pm
If you only could include a engine size handicap system
Bring your car and we will figure something out
So you want to handicap the under 1800cc engines as they are to quick right?
cheers Richie
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #72 on:
December 04, 2015, 17:06:01 pm »
Quote from: richie on December 04, 2015, 15:30:09 pm
Quote from: BeetleBug on December 04, 2015, 13:08:02 pm
If you only could include a engine size handicap system
Bring your car and we will figure something out
So you want to handicap the under 1800cc engines as they are to quick right?
cheers Richie
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Turbo_Rich
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #73 on:
December 04, 2015, 19:06:53 pm »
This is the route for the Santa Pod cruise, as you see very straight forward including a stop at the BP garage then to the retail park where they do the hot start. It's about 22miles
https://goo.gl/maps/7vAPZHrKEiH2
I'll ask about the other route.
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andy198712
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #74 on:
December 04, 2015, 19:29:03 pm »
A lot of over thinking on the street car thing going on here, i'd just say a muffler and the persons word its legal (insured and will pass a police check to be on the road) all friends anyway and its a friendly event
i'll have to google how far it is from Cornwall!
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #75 on:
December 04, 2015, 20:55:50 pm »
Quote from: andy198712 on December 04, 2015, 19:29:03 pm
A lot of over thinking on the street car thing going on here, i'd just say a muffler and the persons word its legal (insured and will pass a police check to be on the road) all friends anyway and its a friendly event
i'll have to google how far it is from Cornwall!
Yes. I guess the cruise is the equaliser.
If someone is happy to potentially be pulled over on the cruise because they lied about it being street legal then that is their risk.
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #76 on:
December 04, 2015, 21:32:40 pm »
Quote from: steve_pugh on December 04, 2015, 20:55:50 pm
Quote from: andy198712 on December 04, 2015, 19:29:03 pm
A lot of over thinking on the street car thing going on here, i'd just say a muffler and the persons word its legal (insured and will pass a police check to be on the road) all friends anyway and its a friendly event
i'll have to google how far it is from Cornwall!
Yes. I guess the cruise is the equaliser.
If someone is happy to potentially be pulled over on the cruise because they lied about it being street legal then that is their risk.
That was my thoughts, also if its people from here or that are known, its pretty clear if someone has a street car or not
Racing first and the cruise after would be interesting, especially as it could change the leader board if they didn't make the cruise after the run.
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Chip
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Reply #77 on:
December 04, 2015, 22:05:43 pm »
Dang, if we had raced first, then done the cruise I think maybe 3 of the vegas dozen would have made the drive! A lot of our group did not go home with happy healthy cars.
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richie
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Reply #78 on:
December 05, 2015, 10:07:48 am »
Quote from: Chip on December 04, 2015, 22:05:43 pm
Dang, if we had raced first, then done the cruise I think maybe 3 of the vegas dozen would have made the drive! A lot of our group did not go home with happy healthy cars.
Advantage of doing cruise 1st is everyone can push a little harder at track but way this is going to work is people will run on Saturday, do cruise saturday eve then run sunday so real test for the cars
cheers Richie
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Reply #79 on:
December 05, 2015, 17:45:04 pm »
I like it!
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Deanodynosaurs
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #80 on:
December 07, 2015, 01:17:34 am »
So excited about this event. I even did a bit of work on the car this weekend as it motivated me.
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #81 on:
December 07, 2015, 12:36:24 pm »
Quote from: Deanodynosaurs on December 07, 2015, 01:17:34 am
So excited about this event. I even did a bit of work on the car this weekend as it motivated me.
Dude
Me too !!
Thanks for all your help on Saturday Dude, much appreciated.
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #82 on:
December 07, 2015, 12:54:10 pm »
Quote from: stretch on December 07, 2015, 12:36:24 pm
Quote from: Deanodynosaurs on December 07, 2015, 01:17:34 am
So excited about this event. I even did a bit of work on the car this weekend as it motivated me.
Dude
Me too !!
Thanks for all your help on Saturday Dude, much appreciated.
No worries mate.
Get cracking on the car now, you get a event to take it to!
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #83 on:
December 07, 2015, 21:37:45 pm »
Quote from: richie on December 05, 2015, 10:07:48 am
Quote from: Chip on December 04, 2015, 22:05:43 pm
Dang, if we had raced first, then done the cruise I think maybe 3 of the vegas dozen would have made the drive! A lot of our group did not go home with happy healthy cars.
Advantage of doing cruise 1st is everyone can push a little harder at track but way this is going to work is people will run on Saturday, do cruise saturday eve then run sunday so real test for the cars
cheers Richie
Love the sound of this and definitely interested
the cruise after racing sounds great..... more worried about the 160 mile round trip there and back after all that abuse
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #84 on:
December 12, 2015, 11:58:13 am »
I'll bring the new car I'm guessing, we start building next weekend.
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richie
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #85 on:
December 18, 2015, 10:58:53 am »
Well its looking like the majority will get there wish on choice of location
, 99% sure it will be at shakey and will take place middle of june, hopefully confirmation in next couple of weeks
cheers Richie
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #86 on:
December 18, 2015, 17:39:39 pm »
Hi to all- that is a very good idea to make a race like that . I hope we can do an outlaw flat four race too :-)
But the best for all is to run a braket class or try to get the faster ones run with DOT's min . You can not race with a 200+ hp car with real street tires :-(
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Reply #87 on:
December 18, 2015, 20:25:35 pm »
Quote from: Udo on December 18, 2015, 17:39:39 pm
Hi to all- that is a very good idea to make a race like that . I hope we can do an outlaw flat four race too :-)
But the best for all is to run a braket class or try to get the faster ones run with DOT's min . You can not race with a 200+ hp car with real street tires :-(
Udo
Hi Udo,
good to see your interest
the street cars will get to choose what tyres they run on and I agree, a real 200hp in a VW on radials can be a real handful but there are plenty of 100-160hp cars out there as an example that run radials that will run good numbers
As to the other cars, there will be a separate class/classes for race cars and people that don't want to do the street car cruise and the format has yet to be decided but a Heads up elimination on sunday is a possibility if there is enough interest
cheers Richie
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Re: Cal look drag day 2016, Street car shoot out disscusion and rules
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Reply #88 on:
December 18, 2015, 22:24:15 pm »
Quote from: richie on December 18, 2015, 20:25:35 pm
As to the other cars, there will be a separate class/classes for race cars and people that don't want to do the street car cruise and the format has yet to be decided but a Heads up elimination on sunday is a possibility if there is enough interest
cheers Richie
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That sounds like a good idea.
Open to all?
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December 18, 2015, 22:35:00 pm »
Quote from: Bernard Newbury on December 18, 2015, 22:24:15 pm
That sounds like a good idea.
Open to all?
Yep
cheers Richie
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