EV hysteria & Cal look
Martin S.:
EV has their applications. I can see it with commercial vehicles, like delivery, transit, etc., where the use is predictable. Charging overnight, and next shift is covered, and repeat. With covid and so many people getting delivery, there are so many electric bicycles and scooters being used it makes sense. Charge it overnight and good for a bunch of deliveries the next day. And overnight power generation is surplus power, especially with nuclear like around here, so might as well use that excess power overnight.
But for individuals, having an EV as your only car does not make sense. I'd like a bug converted to electric and drive that 10km to work, plug it in, and drive home, now that makes sense!
Garrick Clark:
I was watching a guy on you tube, he's converted his type 2 bus.
It's cost 25,000 dollars to do.
That's a lot of money.
It needs to be a lot cheaper to get me to do it.
andrewlandon67:
Quote from: Bruce on May 01, 2021, 13:30:16 pm
Just read an article about a survey of current EV car owners in California. A full 20% said they're dumping the EV and going back to a fuel burner. Many can't access a charger with more than 120VAC output, and it takes days to get a full charge. One guy reported that one hour of charge got him only 5km of range. Even with a 240VAC charger, it takes many hours to charge enough to match the distances driven by people in Cali.
My current driver is a stone stock 74 1300. I've already got the come-back for when someone criticizes me for driving an old car: The most environmentally friendly car is the continued use of an existing car. Unfortunately, the average person has no clue about how much CO2 is released by an old car. They don't know that it's only related to the quantity of fuel burned, not the age the car.
Copper is at an all time record high, breaking $10,000 per tonne. And it's not going to stop there. A typical fuel burner will have around 20-25kg of copper in the entire car. An EV, almost 100kg!
I think the biggest issue, especially here in the States, is that almost our entire infrastructure is based around cars. Back east in the older, smaller states, they have good public transportation systems in-place, and the cities don't sprawl like they do here out west. I know people who commute 50-100 miles PER DAY, and that sort of lifestyle is almost encouraged in some parts of our society, so unless we get the quick charging figured out, or bring our public transportation infrastructure into the 20th century (I know what I said, it's THAT BAD,) EVs are still going to be a fad for much of our country.
As far as emissions go, I think people's biggest issue with old vs new cars is the huge reduction in smog since the introduction of catalytic converters. Even in the '90s when I was growing up, Denver had a massive smog issue, with a huge brown cloud always sitting over the city, giving people breathing issues and such. They may or may not know about the CO2, but most people likely remember at least some of those issues, and the cool pollutants that went with them.
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