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nicolas
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« on: January 13, 2008, 18:24:48 pm »

ok i am getting impatient here...
i have had it with waiting for the parts, i planned the engine a while back now to make sure i could have done it before the meeting in Mol, but that is not going to happen. i don't even have the parts to start the bottomend and fit everything,let alone get it running and go to a meeting.
so i make up little ideas about what i can do to have the engine ready anyway. and one off them has the nice clearanced FK10 that is sitting in the garage for a future engine (if ever)
so i thought since it was silly to have send it out, and haven't got it back, i was trying to figure out what the FK10 would do insted off the FK8 in the 2007cc engine?
i got interested in it since i read that there are smaller engines (like 1914's ) running them with no major problems.
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Jim Ratto
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2008, 19:07:01 pm »

going in your T3 though, right? I'd stay w/ K8.
What's the hang up on the cam? How about an 86B Web? I have one (new)

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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 19:18:07 pm »

Hi Nicolas,

Stay on the Torque Side, keep the K-8 or use Jim's Web 86B... Wink

Frank
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 22:01:16 pm »

yeah i know, it is just that my hands are itching to make a nice mess out off all these parts, or maybe a nice engine. i have been cleaning my case 3 times the last days and cleaned all the oil off the lines and parts twice... so i am beginning to get annoyed as i really want to give it a go and measure, build and get things done.

the only thing i can think off that i can do now is get the tinware sandblasted and painted... did someone find the paintcode for the empi spyder mags in goldish colour? i have some gold paint, but the empi one is more bronze.

and thanks for talking this out off my head, it would be a bad idea i guess, i just looked at the specs myself and i think it would be too cammy.

as for the FK8 i really have no idea what they do to it. they said balancing, but that would be difficult with all the lobes... well anyway i have to be patient like eveybody else here in Belgium as the guy who does all the machining is covered in work. he really knows what he is doing, but it takes a long time to get the parts.

thanks for the offer Jim,but i will sweat this out a little longer and wait for it.  Wink

AND i did have the crank installed and the pistons fitted and deckhight is more then 2mm... that seems a lot, but i think it is better as fitting regular 90.5's with shims.but i do want to have a CR of about 9 - 9.5 so i guess i have to get them lower. any tricks on how to achieve this? or where i can go to have it done?

and thanks for the words guys, i was beginning to stress on the situation  Kiss
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008, 22:47:28 pm »

hello nicolas,

i would set the cylinderholes in the case deeper. so you can upgrade your compression and the sealing will be much better as if it is only drilled for 90.5cylinder.
i hope you understand what i mean, because my english is not so perfect...

dirk zeyen
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2008, 02:03:06 am »

I didn't like my 86b near as much as my K8.  The K8 just seemed to respond better.  All seat of the pants, but I would never go back.  Just my two cents.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008, 07:16:12 am »

hello nicolas,

i would set the cylinderholes in the case deeper. so you can upgrade your compression and the sealing will be much better as if it is only drilled for 90.5cylinder.
i hope you understand what i mean, because my english is not so perfect...

dirk zeyen

thanks, i do understand you, as i think you speak dutch like me???
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dirk zeyen
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2008, 21:31:15 pm »

hello nicolas,

no i am from germany 40 km to the belgium border - perfect place.
90km to bitburg ( drag day)
90km spa ( bug show)
130km budel
240km chimay ( EBI)

hope to see your car with the engine this year somewhere!

dirk zeyen
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 21:47:14 pm »

Some discussion aorund fk8 and fk10 i this thread:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=233508&highlight=fk10

Hope you find it usefull reading...

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2008, 02:03:00 am »

K8 is a plenty for a 2007cc! Why is everybody into over-camming their motors???
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2008, 14:22:19 pm »

K8 is a plenty for a 2007cc! Why is everybody into over-camming their motors???

Because we can! FK-89 in a 1200! Yeah! Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2008, 14:53:44 pm »

K8 is a plenty for a 2007cc! Why is everybody into over-camming their motors???

because we must! to build an engine anyway  Roll Eyes

i allready have a fk10 laying in the closet for a different engine and the fk8 takes a long time to get back. but it is correct that a lot off engines run too much cam and heads with the biggest ports they can get and as a result engines that run very poorly.

and dirk, till next season.
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