1700 engines back in the day
nicolas:
the '1700'(69x88) and '1800'(74x88) engine seemed to be the mainstream engine in the 70's and early 80's (later the 88 pistons were swapped for 90.5), and i was thinking that it would be great to have some engines featured of those days. some specs, and impressions.
they were nice little selfbuild and a lot of fun, or not? i read stories about dailydriven cars with these engines in them and still make good tracktimes.(dave rhoads first engine, the rags to ripper report,bill schwimmers pepto and ragtop,...) although for me tracktimes are not the most important, but more the kick that you could get out of these.
i know you build one, so tell me more about them. ;D
maX cal-look:
Funny !
I speaked about with Jim other day in him shower !! 8) ;D :D
Too early for me, I will build a 1679cc engin when I finish body paint in my 67 ...
So I will post on this topic just after that !
waiting, I read with pleasure Yours experiences about this 'original' engin !
maX cal-look:
;D ;D ;D
65% with me .. hum hum .. ;D
Sarge:
My progression went from 1500 w/ Zenith 32 NDIX to 1600 w/ Zenith 32 NDIX both with single ports and Engle 110 cam. Next up, was an 1800 w/ Holly 300cfm Bug Spray and Engle 125 which suffered a broken (cast) crank after a short time. Then, back to 1700cc w/ 300cfm Bug Spray and Engle 125 + close ratio gears (this was a bad combo as it was with single port heads...big time popping through the intake at 3800-4000rpm from too much cam overlap). The next step was to add dual port heads ported by Ron Fleming and some Solex 40P11-4 carbs which got rid of the overlap problem and woke up the 125. At the end of all the experimentation, I finally got some IDA's... ;D
Rennsurfer:
Quote from: Jim Ratto on February 27, 2008, 21:54:52 pm
I think us guys nowadays FORGET that the original DKP, DRF, etc guys from early 1970's etc... their hot rodded Bugs were their only modes of transportation!
Yep! Which was why I built my car with a 1700cc blueprinted & balanced engine, Engle 110 cam, and 40mm carbs coupled to a '67 transmission outta my friend's Ghia. It was my only car, reliable, and I drove all over the west coast. I was 17 when I bought my first car (same one) and the car was only 13 years old at the time in 1979. I had a little over $5,000 invested in my car after I was done building it. And keep in mind, I built my own engines, installed my own trans, painted the car in a friend's garage, and did 99% of the car myself. I had the interior done at a professional shop. So I saved a boatload of cash, I'm sure. Plus, my parts were all at wholesale because of the many shops where I worked. This is a good thread and makes a lotta sense.
When I tell the younger people, now, how most of our cars were built, they wonder why engines were smaller. That's why. I didn't get a second car till I was 20 yrs. old. Right after that, I started buying brand new cars. Funny, how some things evolve full circle. Now, I'm gonna build another Bug. Don't get me wrong... I knew a lotta people that built huge 48IDA engines and drove 'em all over the place. I always had/have a lotta respect for that.
Sheesh, if I tried to build that same car these days, I'd shudder to think how much it would cost. YIKES!
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