oil pressure?

[peach_]

hey havnt really done alot of posting on here but a few of u out there know me.

right down to the problem in hand, my rocker covers leak oil, yes i know its normal but not quite like this lol
its fine sdnading still and reving it jst the odd drip like normal, but if i go out give it the gun i come back and my single quiet pack is covered in oil as if there's to much pressure when its under load, so me and jamie (kaferboy) came up with the idea of a breather would this been the reason and solution?

cheers 

p.s it a hot 1641 

[benssp]

sounds like too much oil pressure, have you taken the valve covers off ?

[peach_]

no i havnt, do u mean rocker covers? 

sorry lol

[benssp]

pop a rocker/valve cover off and see if there is excessive oil in there, could be overfilled

[peach_]

lol  dipstick seems ok lol, how much oil should there be in there? bit of a novice when it comes to beetle engines,

cheers

[peach_]

do u think a breather would cure it thou?

[benssp]

A breather setup would help, vent the valve covers and the oil filler. what oil are you using?

[peach_]

nothing special jst morris supereem 30 classic stuff?

[ian c]

a breather will help the cover up the symptoms , not cure the problem

[peach_]

what exactly is the problem then? i thought this was a normal thing if u got to much pressure jst use a breather box

[ian c]

i dont know exactly what the problem is .

could be blow-by on the rings .

thats what did it on my 94's 

what oil filler system do you have on ? is it original and is it vented to carb ?

[peach_]

i dont know exactly what the problem is .

could be blow-by on the rings .

thats what did it on my 94's 

what oil filler system do you have on ? is it original and is it vented to carb ?

oow thats not good its only jst started doing it thinking about it, colud be rocker cover seals?

[Jim Ratto]

maybe your valve cover gaskets are just leaking.

are you using stock VW valve covers? Or some aftermarket ones? Are you using stock VW valve cover clips? How are you attaching gasket to valve cover? I wouldn't get too worked up about a breather until you know you have a good foundation.
Too much oil pressure isn't going to do it.

[peach_]

maybe your valve cover gaskets are just leaking.

are you using stock VW valve covers? Or some aftermarket ones? Are you using stock VW valve cover clips? How are you attaching gasket to valve cover? I wouldn't get too worked up about a breather until you know you have a good foundation.
Too much oil pressure isn't going to do it.

standard covers and standard clips, jst by that wire thing that clips over the top, gonna take them off after iv had some food and inspect, hopeing its jst the gaskets, there jst cork ones arnt they?

[Jim Ratto]

The clips should take some real effort to swing over the valve covers. If they seem easy to pry over covers you need new ones. CB performance has OE VW clips and covers cheap. Make sure you use new, clean and dry gaskets, apply Loctite 574 or a good HD adhesive to valve cover, then lay gasket in, make sure it's in flat and even then install covers to motor. Might be a good idea to let engine sit a few hours to let glue dry before you run it (keep hot oil from messing with adhesive)

[peach_]

The clips should take some real effort to swing over the valve covers. If they seem easy to pry over covers you need new ones. CB performance has OE VW clips and covers cheap. Make sure you use new, clean and dry gaskets, apply Loctite 574 or a good HD adhesive to valve cover, then lay gasket in, make sure it's in flat and even then install covers to motor. Might be a good idea to let engine sit a few hours to let glue dry before you run it (keep hot oil from messing with adhesive)

ok will get them off later and will let you know what it looks like

cheers for the advice much appriciated 

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

If its getting all over your QP it could be a Few Things the Baffel under the Generator stand could be installed incorrectly causing it to throw oil up to the oil filler and run out the down pipe at a higher RPM, also it could have a Broken Ring causing excessive Blowby (do a compression check),take the oil cap off start it up and put your hand over the oil filler and check to see how much pressure it has also rev the motor a few time and see if it blows oil out of the filler.

[peach_]

If its getting all over your QP it could be a Few Things the Baffel under the Generator stand could be installed incorrectly causing it to throw oil up to the oil filler and run out the down pipe at a higher RPM, also it could have a Broken Ring causing excessive Blowby (do a compression check),take the oil cap off start it up and put your hand over the oil filler and check to see how much pressure it has also rev the motor a few time and see if it blows oil out of the filler.

dnt think its coming up throu the filler but ill try ur pressure testing methord 

thanks

[peach_]

what oil filler system do you have on ? is it original and is it vented to carb ?

no im not using the oil bath filer thing jst a air paper filter

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

If its getting all over your QP it could be a Few Things the Baffel under the Generator stand could be installed incorrectly causing it to throw oil up to the oil filler and run out the down pipe at a higher RPM, also it could have a Broken Ring causing excessive Blowby (do a compression check),take the oil cap off start it up and put your hand over the oil filler and check to see how much pressure it has also rev the motor a few time and see if it blows oil out of the filler.

dnt think its coming up throu the filler but ill try ur pressure testing methord 

thanks

I am talking about the tube that runs down off the bottom of the stock oil filler it goes down to the bottom of the case on the outside Originally had a rubber flapper valve on the end it ends about even with the top of your muffler

[peach_]

If its getting all over your QP it could be a Few Things the Baffel under the Generator stand could be installed incorrectly causing it to throw oil up to the oil filler and run out the down pipe at a higher RPM, also it could have a Broken Ring causing excessive Blowby (do a compression check),take the oil cap off start it up and put your hand over the oil filler and check to see how much pressure it has also rev the motor a few time and see if it blows oil out of the filler.

dnt think its coming up throu the filler but ill try ur pressure testing methord 

thanks

I am talking about the tube that runs down off the bottom of the stock oil filler it goes down to the bottom of the case on the outside Originally had a rubber flapper valve on the end it ends about even with the top of your muffler

Ok sorry, understand now, if there was a ring gone would it cuz both sides to blow out the rocker cover or jst the one side, as the drivers side is only leaking
cheers 

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

IF A RING IS BROKE IT JUST MAKES MORE BACK PRESSURE IT WILL BLOW OUT ANYWHERE IT CAN ON A 1641 IT SHOULD NOT HAVE MUCH BACK PRESSURE IN LESS THERES A PROBLEM WITH THE ENGINE INSIDE

[peach_]

IF A RING IS BROKE IT JUST MAKES MORE BACK PRESSURE IT WILL BLOW OUT ANYWHERE IT CAN ON A 1641 IT SHOULD NOT HAVE MUCH BACK PRESSURE IN LESS THERES A PROBLEM WITH THE ENGINE INSIDE

thanks for the caps easeir to understand lol thanks very much for all your help, hopefully ill know in a bit 

[benssp]

I always use a light coating of wheel bearing grease on the gaskets then, once they're clipped on, give them a tap with a hammer from the bottom to make them seat correctly(if you look you can see the cover go into position)haven't had any leaks using this method

[Jim Ratto]

IF A RING IS BROKE IT JUST MAKES MORE BACK PRESSURE IT WILL BLOW OUT ANYWHERE IT CAN ON A 1641 IT SHOULD NOT HAVE MUCH BACK PRESSURE IN LESS THERES A PROBLEM WITH THE ENGINE INSIDE

broken ring would probably puke oil out of crank pulley too.

[jamiep_jamiep]

Hows it goin Peach? I'll nip up over the weekend if you like and we'll see if we can sort it. Oh, and you got pm...

[peach_]

rite thanks guys for all ur help,.................................think it wsa jst over filled  but i took the rocker cover off cleaned it up, turned the cork gasket over and then gave it a rev was, ok till i noticed the oil out of the exhaust  lol............ oh well probs blown a seal or something?? anywho gonna have a go at building a big one cheers again