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Jim Ratto
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What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 03:18:42 am »
Seemed like the club was very active and a large club and had some standout cars. What brought about its end in what, 1985? Was it a sudden end or did things sort of taper off interest wise? Were there kids left without "something to do" after the club folded?
amazing that DKP in its current "guise" has been pounding the ground since 1988 .....20 years!
DKK was only around 8 years?
Love to hear some insight
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Bill Schwimmer
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 04:39:20 am »
The end of Bug In had a big impact on it . Also many of the member were starting families, real jobs ect.. That had some effect. It seemed that when Bug In's ended we had to travel to events, before that we never had to leave OC , Sacramento, Phoenix ? why would you go there? OCIR was 10 mins away. When that track closed our Nirvana was gone. The hardcore traveled ,the other people that were more into the social aspect of it got other hobbies...As for the current DKP I was thinking about it the other day.While the origins could be traced back to '88. I think I would put the actual time frame into early '90. My friends and I have been parking in the same spot @ Classic since '88 so that could be our 20yrs. I missed 1 in '96 my car was on a boat somewhere. Bill
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Rick Meredith
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 05:32:28 am »
What Bill said!
Everything revolved around Bug-In and after OCIR closed, there wasn't that goal to look forward to.
The motivation left us and the future looked pretty grim for Cal Look.
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 07:43:54 am »
You know, someone needs to write a book about this very subject.
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 07:46:55 am »
Quote from: Fastbrit on May 18, 2008, 07:43:54 am
You know, someone needs to write a book about this very subject.
I know this one British guy who might take it on!
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 08:30:19 am »
a british guy? who? Cliff Richard?
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 09:19:09 am »
Quote from: Turtle001 on May 18, 2008, 08:30:19 am
a british guy? who? Cliff Richard?
how dare you mention that name on here
would it be possible to get someone kicked out for this??
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nicolas
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 11:32:16 am »
Quote from: streetvw on May 18, 2008, 09:19:09 am
Quote from: Turtle001 on May 18, 2008, 08:30:19 am
a british guy? who? Cliff Richard?
how dare you mention that name on here
would it be possible to get someone kicked out for this??
what? for saying CLIFF RICHARD... man the guy gave you guys first place in the Eurosong contest, he is a legend.
watch out CLIFF!! (one of the best episodes of the Young Ones)
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 18, 2008, 04:39:20 am
The end of Bug In had a big impact on it . Also many of the member were starting families, real jobs ect.. That had some effect. It seemed that when Bug In's ended we had to travel to events, before that we never had to leave OC , Sacramento, Phoenix ? why would you go there? OCIR was 10 mins away. When that track closed our Nirvana was gone. The hardcore traveled ,the other people that were more into the social aspect of it got other hobbies...As for the current DKP I was thinking about it the other day.While the origins could be traced back to '88. I think I would put the actual time frame into early '90. My friends and I have been parking in the same spot @ Classic since '88 so that could be our 20yrs. I missed 1 in '96 my car was on a boat somewhere. Bill
you could have taken the BRM's... didn't you take them off the car, because of the saltwater. or is that an urban legend???
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John Rayburn
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 17:18:03 pm »
Quote from: Fastbrit on May 18, 2008, 07:43:54 am
You know, someone needs to write a book about this very subject.
I don't think anyone would buy a book about that Volkswagen stuff....... I do remember a big "dead time" when Bug In went away. Most clubs revolved around the Bug In schedual and OCIR going away left a " What are we going to do now?" void in the hobby. There were still alot of cars on the street, but nothing to do.
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Bill Schwimmer
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 17:52:15 pm »
Quote from: nicolas on May 18, 2008, 11:32:16 am
Quote from: streetvw on May 18, 2008, 09:19:09 am
Quote from: Turtle001 on May 18, 2008, 08:30:19 am
a british guy? who? Cliff Richard?
how dare you mention that name on here
would it be possible to get someone kicked out for this??
what? for saying CLIFF RICHARD... man the guy gave you guys first place in the Eurosong contest, he is a legend.
watch out CLIFF!! (one of the best episodes of the Young Ones)
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 18, 2008, 04:39:20 am
The end of Bug In had a big impact on it . Also many of the member were starting families, real jobs ect.. That had some effect. It seemed that when Bug In's ended we had to travel to events, before that we never had to leave OC , Sacramento, Phoenix ? why would you go there? OCIR was 10 mins away. When that track closed our Nirvana was gone. The hardcore traveled ,the other people that were more into the social aspect of it got other hobbies...As for the current DKP I was thinking about it the other day.While the origins could be traced back to '88. I think I would put the actual time frame into early '90. My friends and I have been parking in the same spot @ Classic since '88 so that could be our 20yrs. I missed 1 in '96 my car was on a boat somewhere. Bill
you could have taken the BRM's... didn't you take them off the car, because of the saltwater. or is that an urban legend???
Just an urban legend, like the bloody hook in the door handle. My car was rolling on my Empi 5's The BRM's were in bags inside the car. We went and picked up the Berm's before the event at the shippers. It took me a full day to polish and detail them. Keith thought I was crazy.
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 18:06:19 pm »
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 18, 2008, 17:52:15 pm
It took me a full day to polish and detail them. Keith thought I was crazy.
no you're just a normal guys who love is car and want a clean car to show to the people
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Fastbrit
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 18:08:47 pm »
Quote from: speedwell on May 18, 2008, 18:06:19 pm
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 18, 2008, 17:52:15 pm
It took me a full day to polish and detail them. Keith thought I was crazy.
no you're just a normal guys who love is car and want a clean car to show to the people
No, trust me, he was crazy...
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speedwell
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 18:24:47 pm »
Quote from: Fastbrit on May 18, 2008, 18:08:47 pm
Quote from: speedwell on May 18, 2008, 18:06:19 pm
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 18, 2008, 17:52:15 pm
It took me a full day to polish and detail them. Keith thought I was crazy.
no you're just a normal guys who love is car and want a clean car to show to the people
No, trust me, he was crazy...
ok keith you know better than me because , i wasn't there at that time
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Rennsurfer
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 20:44:54 pm »
Bill and Rick nailed it, already. We were really young, just starting our families and careers, O.C.I.R. and Bug-In were done, so most of us simply moved on. That's the bottom line. Kudos to those that stuck it out through the dead years.
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nicolas
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 18, 2008, 21:14:30 pm »
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 18, 2008, 17:52:15 pm
Quote from: nicolas on May 18, 2008, 11:32:16 am
Quote from: streetvw on May 18, 2008, 09:19:09 am
Quote from: Turtle001 on May 18, 2008, 08:30:19 am
a british guy? who? Cliff Richard?
how dare you mention that name on here
would it be possible to get someone kicked out for this??
what? for saying CLIFF RICHARD... man the guy gave you guys first place in the Eurosong contest, he is a legend.
watch out CLIFF!! (one of the best episodes of the Young Ones)
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 18, 2008, 04:39:20 am
The end of Bug In had a big impact on it . Also many of the member were starting families, real jobs ect.. That had some effect. It seemed that when Bug In's ended we had to travel to events, before that we never had to leave OC , Sacramento, Phoenix ? why would you go there? OCIR was 10 mins away. When that track closed our Nirvana was gone. The hardcore traveled ,the other people that were more into the social aspect of it got other hobbies...As for the current DKP I was thinking about it the other day.While the origins could be traced back to '88. I think I would put the actual time frame into early '90. My friends and I have been parking in the same spot @ Classic since '88 so that could be our 20yrs. I missed 1 in '96 my car was on a boat somewhere. Bill
you could have taken the BRM's... didn't you take them off the car, because of the saltwater. or is that an urban legend???
Just an urban legend, like the bloody hook in the door handle. My car was rolling on my Empi 5's The BRM's were in bags inside the car. We went and picked up the Berm's before the event at the shippers. It took me a full day to polish and detail them. Keith thought I was crazy.
thanks for telling the true story. it is cool non the less.
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 00:57:51 am »
do you think the shutting down of whittier blvd. also had any impact. bug-ins were only 2 times per year plus other events, but cruising whittier was every weekend.
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danny gabbard
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 01:26:39 am »
that probably had a lot to do with it also and lack of interest, guys were kinda of gettin out of the vw thing, but it's back almost as heavy well with the old guy's
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Rick Meredith
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 01:50:12 am »
Quote from: danny gabbard on May 19, 2008, 01:26:39 am
that probably had a lot to do with it also and lack of interest, guys were kinda of gettin out of the vw thing, but it's back almost as heavy well with the old guy's
Can't leave ones roots!
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Rick Meredith
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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Quote from: low oval on May 19, 2008, 00:57:51 am
do you think the shutting down of whittier blvd. also had any impact. bug-ins were only 2 times per year plus other events, but cruising whittier was every weekend.
Yeah that was another negative.
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 05:55:12 am »
that and those mini trucks were so cool
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danny gabbard
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 07:09:44 am »
Now that I think about it, It was probably due to pink and purple painted car's of the time?
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nicolas
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May 19, 2008, 09:57:22 am »
i have heard that the widely spread use of green bottle beer was also a defining factor for many people quitting. but i am sure KS has a wole chapter about that in his upcoming book.
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Fastbrit
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 10:38:47 am »
Quote from: nicolas on May 19, 2008, 09:57:22 am
i have heard that the widely spread use of green bottle beer was also a defining factor for many people quitting. but i am sure KS has a wole chapter about that in his upcoming book.
No, but I consumed a fair amount of the stuff while writing it.
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Der Kleiner Panzers VW Club
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nicolas
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 11:23:27 am »
Quote from: Fastbrit on May 19, 2008, 10:38:47 am
Quote from: nicolas on May 19, 2008, 09:57:22 am
i have heard that the widely spread use of green bottle beer was also a defining factor for many people quitting. but i am sure KS has a wole chapter about that in his upcoming book.
No, but I consumed a fair amount of the stuff while writing it.
yeah i heard they still have a stash from way back in the 80's...
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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Quote from: vdubdweeb on May 19, 2008, 05:55:12 am
that and those mini trucks were so cool
That was the Same with all the Clubs in the 70's thru the late 80's Mini Truck's became Popular then after that cam the Import Cars then the bug Came Back but not as strong as it once was it is Funny to See all The Old Guys Getting Back In to it there has even Been Talk About some of the Club's of the 70's Coming Back To Life!!!
I Never Thought that I would Live to See Us Old Farts Standing Around the Car Ralley's, Bug In's and Car Shows with a Cane In One Hand and A Beer in the Other
Once its in the Blood its there for ever Look at Roger Crawford, Mark Huntshacker,Ron Fleming and Many Others Getting Back Behind the Wheel of some 10 sec. VW's
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 14:38:02 pm »
Sorry, but I highly doubt that mini trucks had anything to do with the demise of D.K.K. much less, any other car club(s). Hated 'em then... still do, now. We're talking about German engineering verses something that didn't handle well on turns and looked like a lowered dayglow skateboard that you couldn't pay me to be seen in.
Hence I'm sticking to what the real reasons were; places were shutting down, we were approaching our early/mid twenties, moving on, families, jobs, etc. Many of us switched over to water-cooled VWs & Porsches and other German cars. But one thing has proven itself over the test of time... much like skateboarding, surfing, or anything else one has passion for, a Cal Look Beetle (or other model of choice) will stay with you, always. Period.
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Bill Schwimmer
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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May 19, 2008, 15:32:34 pm »
Quote from: danny gabbard on May 19, 2008, 07:09:44 am
Now that I think about it, It was probably due to pink and purple painted car's of the time?
at least they ran
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 19, 2008, 15:32:34 pm
at least they ran
Ouch.
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 19, 2008, 15:32:34 pm
Quote from: danny gabbard on May 19, 2008, 07:09:44 am
Now that I think about it, It was probably due to pink and purple painted car's of the time?
at least they ran
Yah, what he said. Don't hate the pink cars.
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Jim Ratto
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Re: What brought about the end of D.K.K.
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Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on May 19, 2008, 15:32:34 pm
Quote from: danny gabbard on May 19, 2008, 07:09:44 am
Now that I think about it, It was probably due to pink and purple painted car's of the time?
at least they ran
wow look who has an avatar. Next he'll be posting smiley faces.
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