Drop spindles w/o narrowed beam?

[Sarge]

i thought you had a narrowed beam jeroen?

chirco sells welded spindles...

i'm going for gasburners, it was merely an example

serge, i don't think a stock beam with avis adjusters will give you the comfort you have right now. i now started using my 67 about 3 days a week to get to work as i moved to another town.

i could of course buy myself a pair of spindles whenever and mock them up and narrow if needed...

p.s. for some reason i don't feel i can corner hard, it's like the front end won't turn when going through 90 degree corners at say 25 instead 20. it's not like understeer though but it will have the same consequence

My car won't "turn" either .  I had 195/60's all the way around with the 5.5" Porsche chromies, a stock beam with a few torsions pulled, 3/4" Sway-A-Way front stabilizer, and worn out factory shocks years ago..., it handled like a champ  .  The 145's are no help, but vanity must prevail, right?


I like your car, Jeroen!   Welcome to The Lounge, too

[christophe]

these were for a link pin car i presume -> donder59
but i'm interested as much as you are...

I would be interested in a set for ball joint. I send a mail.....I'll tell you

[Jeroen]

thanks Sarge . I am proud owner off it. best ride so far


bierderick: you also have to check your caster, camber of your car. it also will help. most guys never check that.

[Wunder Wim]

For all of you interested:

the latest production batches of dropped spindles from CB performance are zero offset.
In the past when you bought a set of non-welded dropped spindles, they came from CB and increased the track about 1cm each side. When running aftermarked wheels, this could cause some tire to fender clearance issues.
CB was aware of this problem and started production of zero offset dropped spindles, these zero offset don't increase the track so everything is as VW intended (except for the ride height of course). So gone are the tire to fender clearance issues.
These zero offset dropped spindles are available for link pin and balljoint.

Hope this helps out your questions.

As for welded dropped spindles: the only dropped spindles available for the baywindow bus are welded (Im' not talking about the ones that are swapped from side to side, that's another issue), a lot of the fat chicks are using them at the moment and I haven't heard any complaint about breakage or cracks appearing. If welded spindles can carry the weight of a heavy bus, why wouldn't they be able to handle the weight of a bug assuming everything is done properly... Just to give you my opinion on welded dropped spindles so that's why I am in the progress of making my own welded dropped bay window spindles as over here in europe, they are so expensive...

[christophe]

Thank you for you answer here and on my mail

[Bad bug]

For all of you interested:

the latest production batches of dropped spindles from CB performance are zero offset.
In the past when you bought a set of non-welded dropped spindles, they came from CB and increased the track about 1cm each side. When running aftermarked wheels, this could cause some tire to fender clearance issues.
CB was aware of this problem and started production of zero offset dropped spindles, these zero offset don't increase the track so everything is as VW intended (except for the ride height of course). So gone are the tire to fender clearance issues.
These zero offset dropped spindles are available for link pin and balljoint.

Hope this helps out your questions.

As for welded dropped spindles: the only dropped spindles available for the baywindow bus are welded (Im' not talking about the ones that are swapped from side to side, that's another issue), a lot of the fat chicks are using them at the moment and I haven't heard any complaint about breakage or cracks appearing. If welded spindles can carry the weight of a heavy bus, why wouldn't they be able to handle the weight of a bug assuming everything is done properly... Just to give you my opinion on welded dropped spindles so that's why I am in the progress of making my own welded dropped bay window spindles as over here in europe, they are so expensive...

Do you have a part number from cb for these zero offset balljoint drop spindle.

[Jason Foster]

For all of you interested:

the latest production batches of dropped spindles from CB performance are zero offset.
In the past when you bought a set of non-welded dropped spindles, they came from CB and increased the track about 1cm each side. When running aftermarked wheels, this could cause some tire to fender clearance issues.
CB was aware of this problem and started production of zero offset dropped spindles, these zero offset don't increase the track so everything is as VW intended (except for the ride height of course). So gone are the tire to fender clearance issues.
These zero offset dropped spindles are available for link pin and balljoint.

Hope this helps out your questions.

Cool hope this info. is correct. Thats great news if so.

[Diederick/DVK]

bierderick: you also have to check your caster, camber of your car. it also will help. most guys never check that.

yeah, but i run caster shims and you don't...
guess we need to have a look when i'm in your garage again!!

p.s. i'll look into the CB spindles, wim. thanks for the info!!

[Diederick/DVK]

For all of you interested:

the latest production batches of dropped spindles from CB performance are zero offset.
In the past when you bought a set of non-welded dropped spindles, they came from CB and increased the track about 1cm each side. When running aftermarked wheels, this could cause some tire to fender clearance issues.
CB was aware of this problem and started production of zero offset dropped spindles, these zero offset don't increase the track so everything is as VW intended (except for the ride height of course). So gone are the tire to fender clearance issues.
These zero offset dropped spindles are available for link pin and balljoint.

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=478

these still have an offset of 1/4"...

[Wunder Wim]

Diederiek

Donder and I compared the spindles and we haven't noticed any offset, maybe the product info on the CB site isn't updated yet.

Greetz

Wim

[Diederick/DVK]

so, these are the ones you're talking about?
my brother ordered these (4 lug drums) through vwparts in january and when he had mocked them up (i wasn't around) he said his 145s rubbed the fenders and he ended up narrowing his beam... did CB change them after that?

[67worshipper]

are the cb king and linkpin zero offset as well.ive just fitted a set and it seems good as far as offset is concerned

[Diederick/DVK]

wim is talking about a linkpin, as donder has a 59

[Wunder Wim]

According to my information, both link-pin and balljoint dropped spindles are zero offset.

Diederiek, maybe your brother bought a set they still had in stock from the old batch. Just my opinion.

Greetz

Wim

[GreenTom]

I'm waiting for a shipent form CB and there will be a pair od BJ dropped spindles for discks I'll chceck them but I'm almost sure that they have still te 1/4" offset as the others we have in stock. I have mine for 2 years and yes they have offset. I runn repo MWS Gee bees and they push the whole wheel much outside much more than STD wheels but I was still able to put the wheel under the fender with the dropped CB spindles with discks and CB 2" narrowed beam

[bugnut68]

All I know is I was uber pissed when I had to ditch my Fuch 914 2.0 liter alloys I got for 50 bucks because they wouldn't clear the bottom ball joint.  I did sell them for a considerably prettier penny, but they were the rims I really wanted for my '70, now I'm stuck with stock steelies. 

[Zach Gomulka]

All I know is I was uber pissed when I had to ditch my Fuch 914 2.0 liter alloys I got for 50 bucks because they wouldn't clear the bottom ball joint.  I did sell them for a considerably prettier penny, but they were the rims I really wanted for my '70, now I'm stuck with stock steelies. 

That is due to the 4 3/4" backspace that a 914 wheel has. With slightly less backspace, the ball joint stays just out of the wheel. You could have had a tiny bit machined off of the inside of the wheel though, it wouldn't take much at all to make things clear.

[GreenTom]

All I know is I was uber pissed when I had to ditch my Fuch 914 2.0 liter alloys I got for 50 bucks because they wouldn't clear the bottom ball joint.  I did sell them for a considerably prettier penny, but they were the rims I really wanted for my '70, now I'm stuck with stock steelies. 

That is due to the 4 3/4" backspace that a 914 wheel has. With slightly less backspace, the ball joint stays just out of the wheel. You could have had a tiny bit machined off of the inside of the wheel though, it wouldn't take much at all to make things clear.

yest that is waht you could do.

almost thesame is with my repo Gee bees, the wheel fits with the ball joint but if YOu wanna counter weight it with sticker lead things it will ther them off. I had to put typical for steal rims lead weights.

[67worshipper]

wim is talking about a linkpin, as donder has a 59

thanks chap i think i also could have got away with a standard width beam.running genuine 4.5 genuine fuchs which have great offset contribute to this plus the zero offset cb spindles.although the ride quality is still good.

[Diederick/DVK]

welcome

That is due to the 4 3/4" backspace that a 914 wheel has. With slightly less backspace, the ball joint stays just out of the wheel.

zach, how much backspace is safe then?

does anyone know what the offset is for a 4.5" fooks?

[67worshipper]

welcome

That is due to the 4 3/4" backspace that a 914 wheel has. With slightly less backspace, the ball joint stays just out of the wheel.

zach, how much backspace is safe then?

does anyone know what the offset is for a 4.5" fooks?

its the same as a standard steel vw wheel.its either 43 or 45 et