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Title: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 08, 2009, 21:57:00 pm
I recently picked up this imported Karmann cab as I was looking for a garage for my Karmann Ghia.  Could not resist at the price so after grief from the other half, work has begun.  The work on the body has begun, trim is off and there is some persuading to do on various bolts around the wings etc!  Thinking of using some detailed Lemmerz Sprints on it but like the stance as is.  Not sure what to do regarding the engine as have various parts that were going to go on the Ghia....decisions, decisions.... :-\  Not sure if the pic comes out though


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 08, 2009, 22:08:13 pm
And some extra pictures....


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: jamiep_jamiep on July 09, 2009, 08:48:06 am
Oof, you have your work cut out dude! The plan for the wheels sound cool... What kind of condition is it in then?


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Neil Davies on July 09, 2009, 16:07:08 pm
Nice one Rich, I'm doing a Karmann cabrio too (build thread around here somewhere!) - post up pictures of how yours is doing and I'll do the same. I like the sound of the Sprintstars - I've got a set of chrome ones but going for Porsche cookie cutters on ours. Got a target finish date yet? :)


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 09, 2009, 18:02:17 pm
Optimistically its the end of the month!  Unlike many others, this is not a full resto, just a "half-way" job so the car can get it's MOT and can be used as a daily, with more effort being spent on the Karmann Ghia convertible.  I have had that poor girl for 14 year so she is due some "love and affection" to use the Joan Armatrading song.  The sprintstars were for that project but will use them on this instead, so will take some pics at the weekend if we can get that done as the replacement door skins are being welded Saturday.  Unfortunately the condition of the wheels far outweighs the rest of the car.  Sourced a new bonnet, just needs stripping back and painting which would make the car look a whole lot better.  Rusted old nuts allowing, the wings are coming off tonight.  Floorpan and heater channels look pretty solid so hoping not too much is found and on a positive tone, the screwdriver did not disappear too often when prodding the rust patches!

Saw your project Neil so will compare notes and take lots of pictures to show you the progress.  When the KG is done then its full resto for this car, but I am sure everyone knows how it is, one job leads to three others and suddenly its 2011!


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 13, 2009, 21:55:11 pm
We had an interesting weekend working on the cab, took off the running boards and found a little work is required so we can forget the end of the month as the pictures show.

On the plus side, the wheels go really nicely, enhance the look I think.   In a nearby garage Paul has been struggling with getting his sprints to fit under the rear wheel arch so looks like a swap is on the cards, EMPI versions instead of Lemmerz if there is a difference as they are looking to be around 7J, so should look fine.


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 13, 2009, 23:10:54 pm
And some of the good and bad stuff....


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: drgouk on July 18, 2009, 09:00:11 am
Nothing like a late Cab, heres a pic of my 1979 bug vert for some motivation, 196hp 2332cc efi, berg 5. It hauls ass.


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on July 18, 2009, 16:42:00 pm
If you're having some 7" Sprints made up, do it with 4.5" of backspace. It will work/look perfect with the wide IRS rear :)


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 19, 2009, 11:12:33 am
Thanks guys for your inspiration and support, it looks after yesterdays work that I was highly optimistic.  Last time I looked, bathroom silicone sealant was not a ususal method of repairing inner wings  :o!  Front wings are now off and there is a whole lot of welding to be done so will take the camera down to the garage and share with you all the quality of bodges!  On the positive side, Paul (welding messiah) reckons three weekends and it should be looking good.....

The wider Sprints are in the garage and will be going on in a few weeks time so will let you know what they look and fit like Zach.


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: beetletom on July 19, 2009, 18:39:03 pm
hey, were you the guy who bought the 5.5 sprints from me??


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 19, 2009, 18:51:38 pm
Hi Tom, I am and you can see them modelled on the car.  I originally bought them for the Karmann Ghia but have decided to put them on here for now, hope you like the look.  They are however going on my mate Paul's Karmann Ghia coupe as the EMPI 7" he bought are too wide for his car without a fair amount of work and pain so looks like a good swop!


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 19, 2009, 21:45:44 pm
Looks like a few weekends of dealing with the dreaded tinworm....

On the plus side, engine lid, front wings and bumpers are off  :o, whoever thought using hex headed bolts on wings needs their heads examining!


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 19, 2009, 21:49:27 pm
Some serious bodging showing up  >:(


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Rich99 on July 19, 2009, 21:53:23 pm
Looks can be deceiving, or so I am hoping ::)


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: simon uk on July 20, 2009, 10:59:03 am
oh boy that brings back some memories of when I did my late Karmann, you wait until you get into the strut towers..... Mine had the floor pan welded to the sills, and everything was knackered. It took 3 years to finish, then I had to sell it on to buy bits for my first house. I think there were about 70 new panels in it, including small patch welded repairs, wings, engine lid, bonnet, then a rhd conversion. With hindsight, I wouldnt have bothered.... Still, it was nice to drive at the time - it was painted white with genuine empi 8s and a retrimmed porsche interior.

Keep the pics coming, although they do make me shudder a bit.


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Diederick/DVK on July 20, 2009, 11:57:48 am
sounds cool simon, perhaps you could post a pic of the sake of inspiration ;)


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: simon uk on July 20, 2009, 13:18:37 pm
I will have a look, but I think most of the pics I had went with the car when it was sold  :'(


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: jamiep_jamiep on July 20, 2009, 14:10:55 pm
Wow, spot of lioght patching I see?!  :o :o

Will be worth it in the long run.


Title: Re: Late Karmann Cab
Post by: Neil Davies on July 21, 2009, 08:22:20 am
Thanks guys for your inspiration and support, it looks after yesterdays work that I was highly optimistic.  Last time I looked, bathroom silicone sealant was not a ususal method of repairing inner wings  :o!  Front wings are now off and there is a whole lot of welding to be done so will take the camera down to the garage and share with you all the quality of bodges!  On the positive side, Paul (welding messiah) reckons three weekends and it should be looking good.....

The wider Sprints are in the garage and will be going on in a few weeks time so will let you know what they look and fit like Zach.

No, it IS a usual method! I've found it in virtually every Beetle I've worked on! :D It does look worse than originally thought, but then, so does mine! We'll get there! ;)