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Title: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: nicolas on December 04, 2007, 07:16:59 am
again an advice that is not totally confirmed, but it would be a bad idea to run a FK8 with webcamlifters... it has to do with the hardness of both metals being different and pitting may occur. but what lifters should i use with the engle cam. i was interessted in the tayco's, but they may need sleeves in the case. so i always have used stock ones in the 1641 with the W110, bu they need replacement. so what good options are there to have. i know of Udo Becker lifters, but they are a bit above the budget. i was looking for something good and light and within budget... i know i have to pick 2  ;)

thanks for helping.

btw i may be able to pic up my crank later this week. happy happy joy joy


Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: John Rayburn on December 04, 2007, 08:28:58 am
I've always run stock reground lifters for 27 years on Engle cams with no failures.


Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: nicolas on December 06, 2007, 14:11:16 pm
I've always run stock reground lifters for 27 years on Engle cams with no failures.

thanks



Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: BeetleBug on December 06, 2007, 14:15:50 pm
Never had a problem either and I have used CB superlightweights and Schübecks ceramics.


Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: LGK on December 06, 2007, 19:37:34 pm
Nicolas,

You can go FEBI/BILSTEIN or MAHLE both will work fine and won't rune your wallet.

Regards Steve


Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: Rasser on December 06, 2007, 22:52:25 pm
Whatever type of lifter you choose - you should ALWAYS avoid valvefloat due too excessive rpmīs and inadequate valvespring pressure. Itīs the valvefloat that really kills the lifters/cam.
Well - IMHO (and experience ;-) ) anyway.

I have had bad experiences with brazil mahle, scat.
I have had good expereinces with CB light weight racings (same as beetlebug refers to)

Using a FK cam instead of a W is also a thing that helps keeping lifter/cam alive longer.

Happy build!


/Rasmus


Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: BeetleBug on December 06, 2007, 22:56:33 pm
Whatever type of lifter you choose - you should ALWAYS avoid valvefloat due too excessive rpmīs and inadequate valvespring pressure. Itīs the valvefloat that really kills the lifters/cam.
Well - IMHO (and experience ;-) ) anyway./Rasmus

Agree 100%


Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: qubek on December 07, 2007, 11:21:34 am
Whatever type of lifter you choose - you should ALWAYS avoid valvefloat due too excessive rpmīs and inadequate valvespring pressure. Itīs the valvefloat that really kills the lifters/cam.
Well - IMHO (and experience ;-) ) anyway./Rasmus

Agree 100%

Yes but what when you’re using your bug daily, in traffic, with a lot of idling all the time?
Too much valve spring pressure isn’t good either. Without having to much experience, it’s hard to find a good balance between those two factors. 


Title: Re: what lifters to use with engle cams
Post by: LGK on December 07, 2007, 12:29:34 pm
The initial question/topic of Nicolas was "compatiblity" of lifters with engle cams...so i think setting up springs on heads for a certain type of cam is another debate..indeed it has a lot to do with "what kind of use in mind for your particular set-up?"

Regards to all,

Steve