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« Reply #360 on: May 27, 2011, 09:23:44 am »

Nice upgrade! Cool  I hope you are going with clutch management as well?
We would love to have you back at SCC this fall... and you too Tiki Wink
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« Reply #361 on: May 27, 2011, 09:46:19 am »

Well SCC is all booked from work so fingers crossed we can make it with the car again! We had an absolute blast last year!

Yes we will be running clutch management Smiley
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« Reply #362 on: May 29, 2011, 20:19:31 pm »

That new motor is going to make some serious power. Glad to see you have done away with the inverted rear a-arms. The car should handle much better now. You will definitely have to up your rear spring pressure and shock valving to combat the extra engine weight and the power on launch. It would be wise to have two or three pairs of springs (going up maybe 50 lbs at a time) to test at the track. I have found that whenever I turn up the boost/launch rpm a little, the rear spring rate needs upping. Hope this little snippet helps you guys dial her in. Can't wait to see you guys back on the track Cool Matt
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« Reply #363 on: May 29, 2011, 23:20:20 pm »

Well the car always ran straight, never had any issues at all, the launches were just weird and I think it was down to the shock set-up so I think we're going to run a pair of double adjustable's. Yeah there's going to be lots of testing needed for the new rear end!
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« Reply #364 on: June 05, 2011, 16:36:28 pm »

Nice upgrade! Cool  I hope you are going with clutch management as well?
We would love to have you back at SCC this fall... and you too Tiki Wink

THanks JHU. When the new van arrives on time I'll be there for sure.

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« Reply #365 on: June 05, 2011, 22:10:22 pm »

Rush is on to get it done now for SCC......Cinderella WILL go to the ball (i hope!!!)
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« Reply #366 on: July 05, 2011, 21:23:50 pm »

I think something is missing ?  Huh Shocked  Grin





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« Reply #367 on: July 05, 2011, 21:25:57 pm »

Slightly cheating on the pic, but stock wings this time.. think it will make a big difference to the look.

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« Reply #368 on: July 05, 2011, 21:45:38 pm »

You seem to have a big hole in your Arse  Grin
No seriously looking good Adele , are you going to cut and Raise the whole of the rear fork's / torsion tube for the IRS or just run a raised engine mount ?
Std wing looks good thow I think the colour's a little off .
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« Reply #369 on: July 11, 2011, 22:44:53 pm »

Bit of an update..



A arm in the making, the bearing housing is cut from a stock VW IRS arm so bearings are easily available and I can use my existing RLR/Strange brakes.



3/4 built arms



Locating mounts tacked into position for mock up



Not sure on final ride height yet..
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« Reply #370 on: July 12, 2011, 08:14:12 am »

Wow they look great! Are they by Wayne Allman? Looks like its going to sit well, and I agree on the wings it will look tons better on stockers imho.

Nice!

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« Reply #371 on: July 12, 2011, 08:34:11 am »

 Smiley yeah Wayne's doing it all. I think it's about 10" total narrower than stock in order to fit the 8.5" slick under a stock wing!
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« Reply #372 on: July 12, 2011, 09:32:05 am »

I love them! Nice to see Wayne's approach - zero camber change through the suspension ark is defo the way forward for drag cars. Cool He's a clever chap, our Wayner Cool
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« Reply #373 on: July 14, 2011, 20:38:42 pm »

Another quick update below. Gearbox is now in for the mock up, along with some more tubing. Note that part of the rear cage has been removed (The part that bolted to the luggage panel and frame horns) to allow for more room and for a better way for Wayne to now tie all the rear end in. Smiley

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« Reply #374 on: July 14, 2011, 22:21:41 pm »

Some nice work going on there guys, can't wait to see it run Cool
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« Reply #375 on: July 15, 2011, 04:49:43 am »

Very Nice  Cool
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« Reply #376 on: July 15, 2011, 12:50:09 pm »

Stunning!

Love it!

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« Reply #377 on: July 15, 2011, 19:05:09 pm »

Few more pics and its ready to be collected tomorrow Smiley

Shock mount


On its own two/four feet for the first time


Birds eye view showing the adjustment points for the A Arms Smiley


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« Reply #378 on: July 15, 2011, 19:29:02 pm »

It will be have to go back to Waynes for the tinwork so there are a couple of strengthening tubes to be added which will be done once the engine and turbo etc is all in place. New shorter shocks are also needed!
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« Reply #379 on: July 15, 2011, 19:47:00 pm »

It will be have to go back to Waynes for the tinwork so there are a couple of strengthening tubes to be added which will be done once the engine and turbo etc is all in place. New shorter shocks are also needed!

What he said!! Roll Eyes  Cheesy
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« Reply #380 on: July 15, 2011, 20:25:26 pm »

Looks excellent Grin
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« Reply #381 on: July 16, 2011, 09:45:03 am »

Very interesting setup.
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« Reply #382 on: July 16, 2011, 10:11:26 am »

Very interesting setup.

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« Reply #383 on: July 16, 2011, 11:23:39 am »

That's looking fantastic guys!  Cool

How is the position of the lower spring/shock mount calculated?

On Matt's we had to point the bottom of the spring/shock almost through the center line of the axle. Before that when it was further forward the forces acting upon it were too great when launching. The rear end squatted far too much and it bent upper mounts.

I'm guessing Wayne knows what he's doing though!
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« Reply #384 on: July 20, 2011, 19:21:46 pm »

More updates for anyone who is interested. Brakes have now all been re-plumbed, we opted for stainless hard line this time round instead of braided flexi lines. Hydraulic clutch and pedals all in place and plumbed too. Also installed the new Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump and filters and we are still using our -6 return line but have now gone for -10 main fuel line which i spent the day routing it on the car. Engine is also in place as a long block, some work needs to be done on the header to make it fit with the new rear end also.

New fuel line


Ignore the tie wraps


New Fuel Pump


Working late...always worth having a removeable steering wheel! Smiley


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« Reply #385 on: July 21, 2011, 08:29:45 am »

Looking great Adele... first off... carpet in the garage!? How flash are you guys  Grin Grin

What header are you running Adele? Will you still be running full cooling? I'm looking at getting an over the 'box header at some point and am looking for a supplier....


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« Reply #386 on: July 21, 2011, 09:51:21 am »

Hey Jamie, carpert is ace to work on! We have it in our home garage too (we're at a friends at the mo).

The header is being made as nothing off the shelf will fit. I've just bought some mild steel bends off ebay for £9.50 each so not too bad really. The seller name is tube-fabs on ebay. Yeah full cooling, having raced last year without it I'm looking forward to less pushing and also driving back from the top instead of having to go fetch her with the quad!
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« Reply #387 on: July 21, 2011, 10:07:18 am »

Hey Jamie, carpert is ace to work on! We have it in our home garage too (we're at a friends at the mo).

The header is being made as nothing off the shelf will fit. I've just bought some mild steel bends off ebay for £9.50 each so not too bad really. The seller name is tube-fabs on ebay. Yeah full cooling, having raced last year without it I'm looking forward to less pushing and also driving back from the top instead of having to go fetch her with the quad!

Sounds comfy Steve! Have to upgrade my workshop too Cheesy

Is Wayne going to buzz that up for you as well Steve? I can't weld to save my life  Cheesy so could do with just kind of 'giving ' the job to someone....

CHeers for the info!
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« Reply #388 on: July 21, 2011, 22:45:30 pm »

Well we had the 'old' header Richie had made, so at first we were hoping to use it as is but the new rear end meant we couldn't. The solution was to cut and re-work the header to make it fit! Richie did it all at his workshop as he has access to a Tig welder. If you can tack your one together i'm sure Wayne or someone like that will tig it up.

The bends I bought today are now not needed as we managed to use every part from the old header so if you need a few bends i'll have 3 for sale!!
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« Reply #389 on: September 05, 2011, 17:28:22 pm »

It's getting there slowly!





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