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Title: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 12, 2008, 14:30:47 pm
Steve Tims sell his Stage2 heads for $100 less,as a new years discount

Have a look  :)

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=185137 (http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=185137)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: ESH on December 12, 2008, 23:13:25 pm
I was thinking that these heads or the likes of those offered by Brothers are probably the best heads for a typical street car on the basis that they do sets which are pretty much identical batch on batch which means that you are much closer to being able to just bolt one on in the event of a problem than you are with some of the CNC stuff on offer. I have some Wedgeprts and they got a load of work put into them before they were put on the motor and not being that impressed I'm either going back to my Pauter Bs or will pick something up from UD. For the price I reckon these are probably pretty good, I think they're probably pretty good for a few more $$$ too.

 :)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 13, 2008, 08:58:51 am
Many people are using Steve Tims stage 2 headsmbut thing that bothers me is,how durable they are.

I have to run 10.5 compression with FK45,and this heads are unwelded,I wonder how long would it take them to crack somewhere.....

I know If I buy them,I would have to change everything in my case,springs to stronger items and titanium retainers.

The price is just great as it is.

@ Mat Sanchez: Are the Brothers VW Mid D's welded or unwelded?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 13, 2008, 08:59:55 am
Now this got me thinking..I was going to buy Brothers welded heads but this is such a deal!

mee to,I eas thinking the same :)I will se what will come up :)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Bruce on December 13, 2008, 18:44:36 pm
Many people are using Steve Tims stage 2 headsmbut thing that bothers me is,how durable they are.
Steve likes to use genuine VW Mexican 043 heads.  These heads have the best metalurgy of any head in existance.  Durabilty is not a problem.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 13, 2008, 19:07:15 pm
Many people are using Steve Tims stage 2 headsmbut thing that bothers me is,how durable they are.
Steve likes to use genuine VW Mexican 043 heads.  These heads have the best metalurgy of any head in existance.  Durabilty is not a problem.

Next what bother me,are they good for the high lift of my cam.FK 45,561 lift,I know Steve has some special springs for high lift applications.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Bruce on December 13, 2008, 19:15:43 pm
IMO, you are going about it wrong.  You don't tell the head porter what cam you're gonna use, he tells you what kind of lift and duration his ports need to make hp.  Any cam you pick is likely to make less hp than the one he suggests.

Whatever cam he suggests, he will make sure the head can accomodate it's lift.



Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 13, 2008, 19:50:00 pm
Thank you Bruce,

I anderstand your point,but I already have this cam,this is why I want to use it.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: ESH on December 13, 2008, 21:14:34 pm
... @ Mat Sanchez: Are the Brothers VW Mid D's welded or unwelded ...

The ones Sal bought for her Bug are welded and I think Brothers add the usual material on all their heads but I'm not sure.  :)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Martin Greaves on December 13, 2008, 23:26:34 pm
Here a photo of the Mid D's from Brothers.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/gold65turbo/brohead.jpg)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 10:39:35 am
Here a photo of the Mid D's from Brothers.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/gold65turbo/brohead.jpg)

oh,these look serious,and half the price of Tims Welded heads


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Jesse/DVK on December 14, 2008, 12:09:06 pm
Zvonmir, about the heads.

(http://msp216.photobucket.com/albums/cc269/erinalexa00/Movies%20and%20TV/1b8e69df.gif)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on December 14, 2008, 13:14:11 pm
i like steve tims heads.
but shipping to germany is 160 dollars with UPS :o :o :o, is there a cheaper way?
any idea?

dirk zeyen


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 13:24:02 pm
doesen't he ship with USPS,that's regular USA post mail,I have used Priority mail international on all my orders from USA,when I got my case from Brothers VW,then when I got my crank and flywheel,and all other orders.

The only question is,if he is willing to ship with USPS.

Priority is 6-10 days to europe.For a set of heads I calculated you for germany: it is $106.50


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on December 14, 2008, 13:29:47 pm
i will ask him, thanks for information!!!
what's the price with USPS?

thank you: dirk zeyen


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 13:33:01 pm
shipping is the smallest problem for me here in Croatia.

The biggest problem is when the parts come to the customs,I have to pay 32% to the hole price of the parts(and shipping must be included in the customs quote).

10% customs
22% country tax
 :o



Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 13:43:23 pm
I have another question regarding the O43 heads.

Do all 043 heads have small sparkplugs like 044?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: JS on December 14, 2008, 14:00:58 pm
Nope, only if they are welded, drilled and tapped for small spark plugs..


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 14:10:20 pm
So does anybody know if Tims heads have small holes?

I will try to compare few pictures to see.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: JS on December 14, 2008, 14:46:07 pm
The Tims heads use standard plugs. Called them last year but went for cb wedge ports in the end.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Sarge on December 14, 2008, 14:54:51 pm
I think a lot of what Steve and Greg do comes from years of being down the street from Fumio.  I wouldn't hesitate to use their heads.  The best part of using Timms, Denham, Crawford, Fumio, Berg is that you get some input from these guys on what you've come up with for an engine combination.  When you buy off-the-shelf, you miss those recommendations to some degree.  Good heads are the most important part of the project, so spend wisely.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: 181 on December 14, 2008, 15:09:50 pm
i will ask him, thanks for information!!!
what's the price with USPS?

thank you: dirk zeyen

Dirk, let us know if Steve ships via USPS so we donīt have to ask him the same question again and again. Iīm in Europe too and strongly considering a purchase.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 18:39:05 pm
i will do it :)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Bruce on December 14, 2008, 19:52:48 pm
...I already have this cam,this is why I want to use it.
You should ask him if the FK-45 will work well with his heads.  If the answer is no, then for the cost of a new cam, it is a no-brainer.  You could sell that cam.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 20:40:32 pm
Thanks Bruce

I will do that,so we'll see what he suggests.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on December 14, 2008, 21:35:02 pm
hello,
they ship with USPS. they don't ship with UPS(my mistake-wrong reading), the cost ist 160 dollars to germany  :o :o :o
so much money is this a normal price? ???

dirk zeyen


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 14, 2008, 22:14:42 pm
Maybe the shipping is so high because of packaging,or the large box :(

Please use the USPS shipping calculator,this is what every seller uses to calculate shipping to your location.Set of heads is usually from 25-28lbs.

http://ircalc.usps.gov/ (http://ircalc.usps.gov/)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on December 14, 2008, 22:33:27 pm
thank's
priority mail international is 101,18 dollar...
i've asked greg tims for a less expensive shiping, now i have to wait...
i really like this heads ;)

dirk zeyen


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Bruce on December 15, 2008, 02:36:12 am
they ship with USPS. ...., the cost ist 160 dollars to germany 
so much money is this a normal price?
About 2 years ago the USPS eliminated surface mail as a low cost shipping option.  It is that much because it goes air mail now.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 15, 2008, 12:18:25 pm
so dirk,you're updating your 2017?will you change the cam also,or?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 15, 2008, 19:33:34 pm
how much HP is  realistic from Tims stage 2 heads with FK45 cam on 2276cc?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 15, 2008, 20:19:21 pm
how much HP is  realistic from Tims stage 2 heads with FK45 cam on 2276cc?

When we talked to Tims at The Classic I think he said the max hp out of the stage 2 heads was about 150


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Diederick/DVK on December 15, 2008, 20:22:09 pm
not more? that doesn't sound too high. i thought they were top quality.
plus there's too many variables included to say, right?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: JS on December 15, 2008, 20:27:25 pm
Zach, I think you or he meant 150hp on the Stage1. And it's probably rwhp with the belt on.
The reason being I made about 150 flywheel hp w/o belt on JPM's dyno with my 2276 with 40x35mm valves and almost no porting...


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 15, 2008, 20:39:15 pm
Zach, I think you or he meant 150hp on the Stage1. And it's probably rwhp with the belt on.
The reason being I made about 150 flywheel hp w/o belt on JPM's dyno with my 2276 with 40x35mm valves and almost no porting...

150hp would be dissapointing :-\


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on December 15, 2008, 20:43:00 pm
hi cal-look,

if cam and lifters are ok i will only put 1.25 ratio rockers in the new heads, but till now there is no answer from greg tims about a cheaper shiping so i have to wait and drink a beer!!!

hi zach,

 like JS said 40/35.5 valves are good for 150-160 hp without welding or even more, look at mike mahaffey's split: 82X92 W130 valvesize 40/32 192 hp with fan belt ;D ;D ;D

my 2 eurocent

dirk zeyen


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on December 15, 2008, 21:04:07 pm
greg tims is searching for a cheaper shiping, i will let you know.
but anyway i need new heads ;D ;D ;D

dirk zeyen


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 15, 2008, 21:19:44 pm
great to hear,could you ask him for the max powet of this heads? :)



Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 15, 2008, 22:29:10 pm
Zach, I think you or he meant 150hp on the Stage1. And it's probably rwhp with the belt on.
The reason being I made about 150 flywheel hp w/o belt on JPM's dyno with my 2276 with 40x35mm valves and almost no porting...

I don't think so... Maybe he said 160, but it was no more than that. I think what he was trying to do was get us sold on the Signature heads ;) Which he did! ::)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 16, 2008, 16:51:57 pm
so dirk,did you get the cheaper qoute for shipping from tims?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on December 16, 2008, 17:00:53 pm
Ordered mine yesterday from Greg Tims he is Doing a Special set for My Engine Combo will pick them up next Monday when I am in So Calif.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 16, 2008, 17:51:54 pm
what's your engine combo?  :)


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 16, 2008, 18:18:53 pm
good news,

got a mail from Greg Tims regarding their heads,and he sad he has seen 185hp max on the dyno with this heads.  ;)   That's not dissapointing at all. ;D


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: JS on December 16, 2008, 20:07:25 pm
Is that 185hp on the stage 1 or 2? What cam does he recommend?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 16, 2008, 20:16:18 pm
That's for the stage 2

He sad he recommends anything between w-120 over k-8 to fk-87,for intended use.

For the high lift applications they have special PSI springs available for additional $200.


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on December 16, 2008, 20:17:53 pm
hi cal-look, that's what greg  said:
"Hello,
I will have not been able to get the shipping price cheaper than $160 for usps shipping.I will see if there are any alternative means of cheaper shipping and get back with you Thanks,"

so i have to wait and drink some beer ;D
cheers jim ratto ;D ;D ;D

dirk zeyen



Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: viNce on December 16, 2008, 20:31:34 pm
My stage 1 heads flowed 163cfm @ max lift on a French flow bench, so no worries with the Stage 2 heads  ;)

here is the flow chart but in France we use the "litre par seconde -> lps"

We have 48 lps under 10" of water -> 163 cfm under 25" of water @ 15 mm lift.

Airspeed is good with 70 meters/seconds.

Ratio exhaust/intake is 90%

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1863/tims15210461kk2.jpg)

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3881/tims35229205cn2.jpg)

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9696/tims25217721wy4.jpg)

All 8 ports:
(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5973/courbestimsrd7.jpg)

Average:
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6687/timsmoyenne5314399sp0.jpg)

They were on my old bus 1775 engine, and they will go on my 2074cc


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 16, 2008, 21:52:19 pm
that's good to know

great post man,thank you...


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on December 19, 2008, 13:06:03 pm
a set is ordered :) ;D


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on January 22, 2009, 20:21:32 pm
hi Zvonimir

are your heads arrived?
i've paid my stage one 12 days ago and since that time there is no reply from greg tims :-[ :-[ :-[
i asked him if i could put a set of matchported mainfolds to my order and some other questions...

I'm not very happy at the moment...

dirk zeyen


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: airstuff on January 22, 2009, 20:43:20 pm
You've got PM


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: viNce on January 22, 2009, 20:51:55 pm
A friend ordered two sets of stage 1 heads in mid december and received those yesterday, please, let Steve & Greg do their job, if you purchased Stage 1 heads, they ran out of 40mm valves...

http://celtik56.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A1E8C43F396AC929!6589.entry

Maybe you prefer a pair of poor heads for tomorow?


Title: Re: This is a head deal
Post by: dirk zeyen on January 22, 2009, 21:48:33 pm
hello vince,

i can wait!!!
but i send a e-mail to greg to ad a set of mainfolds i have to pay for. so i wait for a reply....one minute for a e-mail...
i know about the quality (that's what i want) and i will wait!!!

nice pictures- great heads ;D ;D ;D

dirk zeyen