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Title: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Jim Ratto on December 11, 2017, 20:25:13 pm
What a gift to watch and learn from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpoFSHQCRW8&feature=share


Enjoy


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Martin S. on December 11, 2017, 21:26:24 pm
That's awesome, thanks Jim!
Here's a link to the drag bug Monster Garage vid from 10 years ago if anyone needs more VW videos to watch over the holidays...
http://www (dot) dailymotion.com/video/x36jbs

(put a period in where the (dot) is to play)


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: brian e on December 11, 2017, 21:52:14 pm
I am just a young pup in this hobby.  Does anyone know who the guys are? 

Brian


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: brewsy on December 11, 2017, 22:02:43 pm
What a gift to watch and learn from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpoFSHQCRW8&feature=share


Enjoy

Cheers!!


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Jim Ratto on December 11, 2017, 22:11:28 pm
I am just a young pup in this hobby.  Does anyone know who the guys are? 

Brian

EMS


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: brian e on December 12, 2017, 00:54:43 am
I am just a young pup in this hobby.  Does anyone know who the guys are? 

Brian

EMS

So that would be Dick Nuss?  Is he the shorter main guy?  Didn't they used to build some really nice heads? 

I will have to finish watching it and the part 2 tonight. 

Thanks for the history lesson!!

Brian


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: brewsy on December 12, 2017, 10:59:23 am
Jim,
As you seem to remember a lot of the people in our hobby can you remember the name of an old school builder with an Italian sounding name?
I think he died recently but there was a thread on one of the sites with him showing some young lady all of the machine tricks and special tools he made as he built her motor?
I think I also recall some video but as I cant remember his name dont have anywhere to start searching!!


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Pedalpusher on December 12, 2017, 11:14:55 am
Ray Vallero  I think you're after? He did beautiful work!

-Mikko-


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Neil Davies on December 12, 2017, 11:23:35 am
Ray Vallero was part way through doing a series of transaxle videos when he died. When my dad and I put the gearbox together for my car, we watched the videos and modified the superdiff accordingly. None of us are getting any younger and knowledge will disappear as we all do, so anything we can do to archive this info is vital including converting old videos to digital!


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: brewsy on December 12, 2017, 11:29:06 am
Jim,
As you seem to remember a lot of the people in our hobby can you remember the name of an old school builder with an Italian sounding name?
I think he died recently but there was a thread on one of the sites with him showing some young lady all of the machine tricks and special tools he made as he built her motor?
I think I also recall some video but as I cant remember his name dont have anywhere to start searching!!

Thanks All.
It was indeed Ray and heres the thread:
http://ultimateaircooled.com/engines/11385-my-engine-build-ray-vallero-heavy-pics-videos-machine-shop.html

Although (unfortunately) all the photos are on sucky photobucket.
The YouTubes still work  ;D


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Martin S. on December 12, 2017, 17:49:11 pm
I followed the same super diff thread on Shoptalkforums.com which was a better read.

Does anyone know if Berg's blue book is available online?
Gene was strict about copyrighting his writings so I wouldn't be surprised if it not online.
These days the attitude is more lax than in the past.
I'd like to scan it one day, if it is cool to do so. ;D


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Jim Ratto on December 12, 2017, 18:37:58 pm
I am just a young pup in this hobby.  Does anyone know who the guys are? 

Brian

EMS

So that would be Dick Nuss?  Is he the shorter main guy?  Didn't they used to build some really nice heads? 

I will have to finish watching it and the part 2 tonight. 

Thanks for the history lesson!!

Brian

About 75% into part 2 you can view Dick talking a lot about detail of headwork, done for specific motor combinations.
Beautiful work.


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Jim Ratto on December 12, 2017, 18:47:39 pm
I am just a young pup in this hobby.  Does anyone know who the guys are? 

Brian

EMS

So that would be Dick Nuss?  Is he the shorter main guy?  Didn't they used to build some really nice heads? 

I will have to finish watching it and the part 2 tonight. 

Thanks for the history lesson!!

Brian

What I loved about this 3+ hours is the thoroughness and the full explanation of "why" they adhere to the processes they had proven to make work. Nothing gets left to chance. Everything is checked. I started really slowing down in my own engine builds, much in the same manner, about 15 years ago, when I was asked to assemble a top-shelf 90.5 x 84 street engine, all new parts, from A to Z. Even with the best of parts, it's not hard to get yourself into trouble if you aren't careful and stay three steps ahead, and learn what problems to look for. Setting up valve springs, setting up cam timing, setting up relationship of the arc the rocker must travel in, bearing clearances, oil pump mods. All need time.
I love that they proved it's all about volumetric efficiency, making the porting and carburetion and valve timing work for your cc, even if it is as small as 1679cc.
Makes you wonder what advances have been made since then.

About 20 years ago, a friend of mine built a red hot 88 x 74, not with FK89, but with a beautiful set of Heads Up Perf VW casting heads, 86B Web and 48IDA's. Easily a very low 13 second street car and as smooth as any bigger stroker I had driven.


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Rick Meredith on December 12, 2017, 19:56:09 pm
What a gift to watch and learn from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpoFSHQCRW8&feature=share


Enjoy


Added it to my watch later queue. Thanks for the suggestion, Jim


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Martin S. on December 12, 2017, 20:16:49 pm
I started watching last night. One thing that strikes me is how expensive parts were back then! Holy crap, you would need a really good job to afford some of those parts. More than a couple hours OT he says and that's for sure. Now for just a couple hundred we can buy beautiful H-beam rods, or forged CrMo strokers cranks, ratio rockers, heads, cases, all super cheap made in China. No wonder not many people make small motors anymore.


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Martin S. on December 14, 2017, 00:00:14 am
The other thread about Vallero and the super diff was on TheSamba.com.
It could be the same thread as the Ultimate one posted above, but the youtube vids play inline with the thread so you don't have to jump around webpages.

Titled "New Vallero tranny build for Hugo (1963 bug with 2185cc)" it reads like a storybook with a woman who wanted a better transmission for her Daily Driver 63 Beetle and the 2185cc engine that Ray Vallero built for her (she mentions a build thread that would be good to read).
Luckily for us she chronicled the whole trans affair in this thread.
As life would have it, in the middle of the project, on page 2 Vallero has a heart attack and dies thus a tragedy :( yet a compelling read nonetheless.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=622360&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Fastbrit on December 14, 2017, 10:55:19 am
Seeing Bill Duncan and Dick Nuss after all these years, I can't help wondering how many beers were consumed during the making of the videos... Thos who knew them back then will understand.  ;D


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Martin S. on December 14, 2017, 16:08:44 pm
Where are they now? The video isn't that old.


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: modnrod on December 16, 2017, 13:46:31 pm
Thanks Jim.


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: alex d on December 19, 2017, 15:00:35 pm
The method they use to check valve to piston clearance is brilliant, I'll definitely be using it on my next build!


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Eddie DVK on December 31, 2017, 10:42:17 am
The method they use to check valve to piston clearance is brilliant, I'll definitely be using it on my next build!

I am looking for this info, about where in the video is this... can t find it.
thanks in advance


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: alex d on January 01, 2018, 12:56:28 pm
The method they use to check valve to piston clearance is brilliant, I'll definitely be using it on my next build!

I am looking for this info, about where in the video is this... can t find it.
thanks in advance


It starts around 35 minutes into the second video and goes on for the following 20


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Eddie DVK on January 06, 2018, 10:14:45 am
^^^^^^^^^^
Ok thanks you, you pointed me in the right direction.
But the info I wanted starts at minute 49, valve to piston clearance.
They explain that perfect.....
I know how to do that on DOHC engine, but never knew on a beetle engine.
Companies that make cams for DOHC engine also give with their timecard the valve to piston
clearance at a certain degrees before or after top dead centre for inlet and exhaust valves.
Never see that info on beetle cams.
You really want to know that the exhaust has 2mm clearance, that's the critical one.

Regards edgar


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Udo on January 09, 2018, 20:54:20 pm
I am just a young pup in this hobby.  Does anyone know who the guys are? 

Brian

EMS

This is what i thought - Bil Duncan is speaking  :)

Udo


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: Clatter on January 25, 2018, 19:32:45 pm
Awesome!

Always remember to use plenty of Liquid Wrench!  ;D

That's Gene Berg at 52:00 right?


Title: Re: Some of the best VW high performance info ever.
Post by: brewsy on January 31, 2018, 21:43:22 pm
LOVE the little pointy stick man!!
His technique is great   :D :D :D