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Title: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Worm on December 13, 2012, 00:17:53 am
Picked these heads up recently and while cleaning them up I noticed a stamp with the word SMALL.  Anyone know who "small" is?  They are cut for 90.5/92's and they look like they want me to put them on my motor...............  Yes they do....
Any info would be great.  Thanks[attachment=2]


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: bugnut68 on December 13, 2012, 00:31:15 am
Don't know for certain, but back in the '80s there was an outfit with multiple locations called Small Car Accessories.  They had one in my old hometown of Eugene, Oregon, could be possible from them... other possibilities include a Washington state based shop called Small Car Performance, as well as the fairly well known SoCal shop that closed in the early '90s, Small Car Specialties.  Not helpful entirely, I realize, but just a few possibilities I would throw out there.


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Worm on December 13, 2012, 01:43:37 am
Small car Specialties was my my first inclination.  It didnt seem quite right tho.  Oh well.  Maybe someone knows a guy named Small that just happened to work for Fumio Fukaya or something....ha!
They sure do look like some serious work was put into them.  And they are German.  Could very well be from the 80's.  I'll have Greg Brinton check them out for me soon.


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: bugnut68 on December 13, 2012, 02:31:46 am
I believe I read somewhere (an old '80s Hot VWs ad, I think) that Clyde Berg worked for SCS at one time... that might be one resource, as well.


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Speed-Randy on December 13, 2012, 04:48:48 am
Yer killin me Smalls!!!


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: DKK Ted on December 13, 2012, 06:35:14 am
Whats with the slit down the middle?? Fred @ Performance Tech. might know, he's at his shop on Saturday's from 8-12 noon. Maybe even Rodger Crawford.
Nice port though.

Ted


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: rick m on December 13, 2012, 15:23:54 pm
Decent looking heads.  I would clean them up, run the valve seats and use them. Someone did some nice work. Not sure about the LASH CAPS though. Have not seen that configuration before.

RM


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Erlend / bug66 on December 13, 2012, 16:50:07 pm
Is it me, or are the valve guides really big? Looks like somebody stuck a .50 cal down there!


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Dominick Luppino on December 13, 2012, 17:35:07 pm
Guy Bryant, SP? Worked for Small Car Specialties, he did lot's of heads for them, in the day.


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: dragvw2180 on December 13, 2012, 17:38:38 pm
 If my old brain is working correctly my HB 3s from Small Car Specialties had SCS stamped into them , this was around 1986 . Mike McCarthy


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: danny gabbard on December 13, 2012, 19:29:57 pm
Hey worm, My heads say BIG !! LOL.


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Worm on December 13, 2012, 19:53:28 pm
Compensating for something Danny?  Ha. Thanks Guys for your interest. No big deal. I hope to get on my motor if they are usable. Should be well see


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Kaferdog on December 13, 2012, 22:15:06 pm
"WOW"..That slit is interesting..!... :o


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Worm on December 13, 2012, 22:34:58 pm
I know right?  Maybe they thought it would add cooling?  Or maybe they decided to saw the damn things in half and trash em then decided against it dunno.  I hope it won't affect anything. When I bought em I thought it was a line drawn on them. When I opened the box there was a definate wtf moment. I did not pay much for them (160 for both). If I can get em to work that will be a deal yes?


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: 65bug on December 14, 2012, 07:39:39 am
I have NEVER seen that before. Maybe something to do with letting them cool better since they have been welded???????? That's pretty scary..........


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Kaferdog on December 14, 2012, 10:25:26 am
Maybe it's a relief cut to help insure a better seal the cylinder and head ...??..kinda a flex thing...?


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Nostalgiavw67 on December 14, 2012, 11:36:38 am
If my old brain is working correctly my HB 3s from Small Car Specialties had SCS stamped into them , this was around 1986 . Mike McCarthy

I've the same marking on the heads actually on Small Wonder: SCS
Hope this can help ;-)


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: stretch on December 14, 2012, 12:57:59 pm
Why are the lash caps split as well?


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: richie on December 14, 2012, 15:35:44 pm
Why are the lash caps split as well?

From what I remember they are the valve keeper/lock and lash cap all in one so have to be split to fit over the valve stem grooves, not taken any part like that for a few years now though

Theres no way i would run those heads like that,getting it to seal on the intake with that cut in it would be a absolute bitch, and I would think it would want to continue cracking along that line now

cheers richie


 


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Metalflakedave on December 14, 2012, 15:48:41 pm
Why are the lash caps split as well?


Theres no way i would run those heads like that,getting it to seal on the intake with that cut in it would be a absolute bitch, and I would think it would want to continue cracking along that line now

cheers richie

 

You're right - hard enough to get big ports to seal without, in some cases. I'd be worried too.


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Worm on December 14, 2012, 15:51:19 pm
Awesome..... :-\ :-\


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Metalflakedave on December 14, 2012, 15:53:25 pm
Wouldn't it be possible to weld up the slit on the manifold gasket face then freshen up the ports as part of recommissioning the heads?


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: stretch on December 14, 2012, 16:29:09 pm
Why are the lash caps split as well?

From what I remember they are the valve keeper/lock and lash cap all in one so have to be split to fit over the valve stem grooves, not taken any part like that for a few years now though

Theres no way i would run those heads like that,getting it to seal on the intake with that cut in it would be a absolute bitch, and I would think it would want to continue cracking along that line now

cheers richie


 

Thanks Richie, they look pretty cool to be honest.  No way of 'loosing' a lash cap with that system.  Well not unless something goes seriously wrong, and then a lash cap is the least of your worries.


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: Kaferdog on December 18, 2012, 12:04:10 pm
Worm...I would talk to Jeff Denham ...he would be able to help ya..!


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: stoneloco808 on December 19, 2012, 18:11:13 pm
Yes, that cylinder head does look interesting.  That is the first time I ever seen anyone stamp anything on the valve cover gasket surface.  I usually see stampings in the rocker box area and on the small portion of the exhaust port.  Like mentioned I have seen "SCS" stampings from Small Car Specialties heads on the mentioned exhaust port portion.

Another thing I fould interesting, is I never seen that 344 head casting before, or what looks like a "344" casting number in the rocker box area.  Anyone have any info on this casting?


Title: Re: Can someone help me identify these heads?
Post by: HERB on December 19, 2012, 20:45:24 pm

I've the same marking on the heads actually on Small Wonder: SCS
Hope this can help ;-)
  As long as you know those are not the original heads on Small Wonder.