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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2006, 07:41:24 am »

That black dkp1-style oval is really nice but it's pre-callook, definitely NOT callook. Nosedown-stance is mandatory on a cal look car, together with a hot engine (not necessarily with IDAs) and a nice set of wheels with big n'littles. Oldspeed is a term used for cars with period correct bolt-on hop up parts, mostly on a 30hp engine or with a transplanted 356 motor, no or maybe a little lowering.

just my $ 0.02


I'm with you LuftKraft!

There is such a thing as Pre-Cal-look...

I'm totally with you guys....!!!

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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2006, 13:14:36 pm »


 I guess it's most important that everyone thinks and understands that the Old Speed look, and the Old School Cal Look are two different styles that form a perfect combination or complement to eachother. Better than any two styles...

 It's not in the name, it's in the spirit...
 And I guess those are quite alike for the two styles discussed...
 
 And whatever name you attach to it I do like both... Smiley
 
 
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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2006, 16:48:09 pm »

Hi there guys - its taken me a while to read all this thread but I do agree with a lot of you - you see these days I think we all get a bit obsessed with buying up Original Empi/vintage  parts - in my mind people back in the day just did what ever they could to make their VW go a little faster, handle a bit better and most of all look a bit cooler.

I used to be obsessed with only buying Original Empi parts until I spent a load of money (read as too much Wink) on an original empi Eliminator Shifter, now this shifter looked AMAZING but when it came to driving hard (read as racing my friends) it would let me down nearly every time - hitting reverse instead of second!! so that got sold and I brought myself a "Sparkomatic" Formula Vee style shifter which looks almost as good but works perfctly

I guess what I am trying to say is - Don't just sucked into thinking you have to have all matching Empi parts because in truth no one did back in the day so why should we.

IMHO I prefer Race Trim parts anyway  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2006, 04:03:03 am »

I think it's a mistake to divide this cars into
  • cal look
  • oldspeed
  • pre-cal look
  • old school
  • school look
  • old cal
  • oldcalspeed
  • caloldlook
  • invent name and put here
  • Dont Forget Resto Rod And Resto Mod and the LOOK??(What LOOK?)
all this styles.
it's a subculture in a subculture, no need to give it 3425 different names. i completely lost the overview of all this and think it's annoying. it's not what cal look should be: plain and simple.

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« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2006, 10:38:35 am »

uhmmmmmm, interesting discussion, my thoughts are that a Cal Look car can be at the same time an Old Speed car, I'll explain later, now i have to have breakfast  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2006, 11:14:56 am »

for example:

a 68 with a 88x69 (empi slipper skirts), type 3 ported dual port heads, Sig Earson camshaft, a pair of Solex 40P11s, 4 lug sprintstars, period steering wheel, original empi quickshift, original Empi camber compensator and sway bar, etc. would qualify as an old speed in my book, as it has all period-correct speed equipment. If you lower the front (pulling leaves, selec-a-drop, cut'n turn), then it becomes a cal looker too, doesn't it?

take the same 68 but change the engine for a 2332 with DRLAS and it will be just a cal looker (and faster), but it won't be an old speed car, as the go-fast part is not period-correct.

usually when one hears of old speed, thinks of Judson superchargers, Speedwell, Okrasa, TDE and the like, but a 100% period correct looker would qualify as well in my book.

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« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2006, 12:53:44 pm »

i dont care what you call it,     it's still one of my favourite cars of the last few years. Grin



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« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2006, 19:39:58 pm »

your car is class,lovely Kiss
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2006, 03:24:23 am »

I'm gonna fit a Shorrock supercharger to my Old-School '67 (model 68) bug. Shorrocks were available from I guess the middle of the 60ies.
 
 


 
 
Hey Jordy !
I am using a Shorrock Supercharger also !
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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2006, 18:15:35 pm »

my UNcles 67 circa 76


had this in it

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« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2006, 19:27:19 pm »

cool shorrock waouww  Shocked
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« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2006, 19:29:51 pm »

yeah it was a big bugger as well, origonally designed for a 2.5ltr daimler V8 engine
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« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2006, 21:43:36 pm »

Streetvw,
Didn't you sell that motor on e-bay ?
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« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2006, 22:39:05 pm »

yep!! my uncle passed away in Feb 2005 Cry and we had to sell a lot of his stuff off , the motor ended up going to Denver in the US and was said to be destin for te rear end of a ghia!!
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« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2006, 05:29:12 am »

yep!! my uncle passed away in Feb 2005 Cry and we had to sell a lot of his stuff off , the motor ended up going to Denver in the US and was said to be destin for te rear end of a ghia!!

I think I know the Ghia!!! He is a cool guy, I met him this past summer, Too bad I cant remember his name Sad He also bought the Race Trim breather from me- it was NOS.
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« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2006, 05:30:25 am »

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« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2006, 09:49:11 am »

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« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2006, 21:35:36 pm »

Yes, That's Howard's Ghia, but not the Shorrock he bought from "streetvw".
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« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2006, 00:04:27 am »

small world guys - Also I have never seen a Race Trim breather box like that one - SICK Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2006, 04:19:45 am »

small world guys - Also I have never seen a Race Trim breather box like that one - SICK Grin Grin Grin

As far as I know there are 3 different versions, that one being the latest. I didnt have the heart to take it out of the package and do the modifications to it that I wished, so I found a pair of early ones Smiley
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