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« Reply #150 on: March 24, 2009, 08:13:48 am »

Actually I picked up another 170 drill bits last week!

Drilled springplates?  Open end to torsion bar covers so they can just fall out?  Man this is really scary stuff.  Not for me!

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Phil,there were factory open ended covers on later cars so that would be no problem


cheers richie

Whoops! Soz not familiar with all the modern VWs and their new fangled high tech modifications  Wink
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« Reply #151 on: April 10, 2009, 13:35:04 pm »

Titanium axle nuts.  58 gms rotational weight saved.

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« Reply #152 on: April 10, 2009, 14:04:28 pm »

...and when everything else has been done, don't forget to delete your text-messages on your cellularphone.... Grin
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« Reply #153 on: April 10, 2009, 14:46:44 pm »

Titanium axle nuts.  58 gms rotational weight saved.

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Phil,I cant believe you arent using open ended wheel nuts Shocked Shocked  You need to sort that out double quick Wink Cheesy  Cant imagine how much all this Ti stuff is costing


cheers richie
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« Reply #154 on: April 10, 2009, 17:27:29 pm »

Very nice phil, looks like you've got 3 grams of pain on those drums, another 6 grams of rotational weight you could lose Grin
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« Reply #155 on: April 10, 2009, 18:41:38 pm »

...and when everything else has been done, don't forget to delete your text-messages on your cellularphone.... Grin

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« Reply #156 on: April 10, 2009, 20:34:40 pm »

What's with the steel split pin?
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« Reply #157 on: April 10, 2009, 20:54:34 pm »

What's with the steel split pin?
Don't worry, it's made of 'Doesn'tweighadamnium'...
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« Reply #158 on: April 12, 2009, 08:26:27 am »

What's with the steel split pin?

Yep just temporary, I think I can knock some up in Titanium......
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« Reply #159 on: April 12, 2009, 08:29:42 am »

Titanium axle nuts.  58 gms rotational weight saved.

Cheers
Phil

Phil,I cant believe you arent using open ended wheel nuts Shocked Shocked  You need to sort that out double quick Wink Cheesy  Cant imagine how much all this Ti stuff is costing


cheers richie

Actually they are Porsche ally nuts so really light - wouldn't trust open ended ally surely there's not enough strenth in it.  Otherwise I'd have some!
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« Reply #160 on: April 12, 2009, 10:30:05 am »

The ol' drilled pedals routine.

Weight before - 2183gm
Weight after - 1938gm

Saving: 245gm.

Although I did hack off at least 55gms of underseal from around the pedal area so I'm down about 300gm.

Weight loss does include a couple of replacement titanium bolts.

Cheers
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« Reply #161 on: April 12, 2009, 10:31:53 am »

couple of other pics of the arms and the replacement Titanium plate I made
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« Reply #162 on: April 12, 2009, 10:40:50 am »

just obsessive phil Grin what more can i say Wink
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« Reply #163 on: April 12, 2009, 18:09:57 pm »

I would have drilled much bigger holes in the clutch pedal shaft.  The forces on it are nowhere near what the brake pedal gets.
Anyone know what the late pedal assembly weighs?
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« Reply #164 on: April 12, 2009, 20:00:47 pm »

You could have made a bigger slot in that titanium plate dude  Wink Smiley
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« Reply #165 on: April 13, 2009, 00:07:51 am »

My homage to Mark and the SSB was to get a pair of those cheap,plastic,Rossi headlights,shocking quality but very light Smiley
I spent quite a bit of time BSing with Mark about lightweight stuff.  I think he'd be all over this part (123g):
Anyone know what the stock one weighs?
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« Reply #166 on: April 13, 2009, 10:26:07 am »

I would have drilled much bigger holes in the clutch pedal shaft.  The forces on it are nowhere near what the brake pedal gets.
Anyone know what the late pedal assembly weighs?

That's a fair point.  I've taken more out of it now.
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« Reply #167 on: April 13, 2009, 10:29:03 am »

You could have made a bigger slot in that titanium plate dude  Wink Smiley

Actually I've jumped the gun getting the pics, pretty sure I'm going to have to in order to get the adjustment on the pedal stoppers.  It's just a bit of a bugger to grind out.  Right now I have pillar driller's elbow and can look forward to titanium filer's shoulder!
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« Reply #168 on: April 13, 2009, 11:10:52 am »

You could have made a bigger slot in that titanium plate dude  Wink Smiley

Actually I've jumped the gun getting the pics, pretty sure I'm going to have to in order to get the adjustment on the pedal stoppers.  It's just a bit of a bugger to grind out.  Right now I have pillar driller's elbow and can look forward to titanium filer's shoulder!

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #169 on: April 13, 2009, 19:22:28 pm »

Wow! I just love the Ti axle nuts Cool. How much for a pair please Phil?
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« Reply #170 on: April 13, 2009, 20:28:54 pm »

Wow! I just love the Ti axle nuts Cool. How much for a pair please Phil?

They are a bit sexy I admit!  Sorry, Pete's machinist had some leftover Ti so ours were a one off.....
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« Reply #171 on: April 14, 2009, 09:09:03 am »

All this drilling makes me want to get another piercing...
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« Reply #172 on: April 14, 2009, 09:12:18 am »

All this drilling makes me want to get another piercing...
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thats way to heavy... even if they are titanium
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« Reply #173 on: April 28, 2009, 08:57:51 am »

I was talking to Eric Ballard last week and asked him about his lightweight car he ran in the late 80s.
He said he removed all the double skinning from the inside, such that you couldn't tell from outside that the car had been gutted.

In his gearbox, he lightened many of the parts.  He core drilled the mainshaft (but not past 2nd gear)  He said he removed over 1.1 kg from the ring gear alone.  The gears were narrowed and drilled.  I think he said the axles were drilled too.

The end result was that he had a drag car that weighed under 450kg without driver.  And that included a roll cage and wheelie bars.  And all steel body panels.
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« Reply #174 on: April 28, 2009, 17:51:59 pm »

Very imppressive stuff.
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« Reply #175 on: April 29, 2009, 09:00:04 am »

I was talking to Eric Ballard last week and asked him about his lightweight car he ran in the late 80s.
He said he removed all the double skinning from the inside, such that you couldn't tell from outside that the car had been gutted.

In his gearbox, he lightened many of the parts.  He core drilled the mainshaft (but not past 2nd gear)  He said he removed over 1.1 kg from the ring gear alone.  The gears were narrowed and drilled.  I think he said the axles were drilled too.

The end result was that he had a drag car that weighed under 450kg without driver.  And that included a roll cage and wheelie bars.  And all steel body panels.

we need a seperate post off this cars and even more details Grin
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« Reply #176 on: April 29, 2009, 14:20:19 pm »

I'm sure if we ask Russell nicely he will post up some pictures, but under 1000lbs is seriously light for a floor pan car even when it is a racecar. I've seen some pictures of the spring plates on it, maybe even earlier on this thread (I can't remember much these days), but there was a lot of light weight air where steel used to be!

The challenge is out! Has anyone got a steel beetle ready to race on a floor plan that’s under 1000lbs / 450kg (no driver) other than Russell.

As luck would have it I’m just off to the machine shop now, to swap a steel bracket for an aluminum one but I think it might take something a bit more drastic for me to be in the running!
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« Reply #177 on: April 29, 2009, 16:33:05 pm »

I use to have a car that was about 1100lbs and I can tell you it was a handfull to drive.  1000lb car will will surely be worst. Gotta have big balls for sure. Grin
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« Reply #178 on: April 29, 2009, 22:54:26 pm »

oles pink panther car must be getting close to a 1000lb.i know its not all steel and a racecar but sure is cut away Wink
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« Reply #179 on: April 29, 2009, 23:23:55 pm »

oles pink panther car must be getting close to a 1000lb.i know its not all steel and a racecar but sure is cut away Wink

Oh yeah its Cut up - you gotta love the inner heater channel removal Wink Smiley
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