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« Reply #120 on: November 05, 2009, 17:40:34 pm » |
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Just re-read and I see that you are putting this all in a type 181... If that's the "case" then type 1 boxes don't get any better than the late single side cover for IRS.  |
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« Reply #121 on: November 05, 2009, 18:17:35 pm » |
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funny to read your comments are theirs on their website. in their words proper gussetting is then extra gussetting  as Zach already stated, normally rhino cases have a gusset on top of the case, for when you flip them for sand buggies. the one rancho sells has an extra bottom gusset.....  |
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« Reply #122 on: November 05, 2009, 23:05:38 pm » |
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Just re-read and I see that you are putting this all in a type 181... If that's the "case" then type 1 boxes don't get any better than the late single side cover for IRS. I should clarify..my thing is Euro spec military Thing, originally came from factory with pre-67VW bus gearbox with reduction gears, but I lowered the car by installing a swingaxle gerabox from a bug. Thanks. |
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« Reply #123 on: November 06, 2009, 17:50:08 pm » |
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Euro 181's had Bus gearboxes? I did not know that. Makes sense, though. Learn something new everyday, thanks |
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« Reply #124 on: November 06, 2009, 18:06:34 pm » |
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yes, early Things (69-71) had reduction gear bus box and bus 1500 singleport. In 8/1971 they changed the config to IRS, AM gearbox (4.37:1) and 1600DP engine.
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« Reply #125 on: November 12, 2009, 21:58:08 pm » |
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I decided to give a try to new red silicone valve cover gaskets from Wolfsburg West.  |
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« Reply #126 on: November 12, 2009, 23:33:43 pm » |
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it,ll be interesting to see how you get on with the silicone rocker cover seals.anyone else used these?
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« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2009, 19:12:31 pm » |
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OK I decided to come clean with this :-) Because this engine hasn´t been run yet and is still on the engine stand, I decided to get back to rocker geometry. I think I screwed up before and I don´t like it at all. This is a wipe pattern on the lash caps.  I believe that the pushrods are too short as I´m out on the adjustment screws for maybe 3 1/4 turns. Keep in mind that I´m a first-timer, make my Christmas and tell me what should I do please:-) Thanks, Jan specs are: FK-8 cam, 1.4:1 CB rockers with appropriate lash caps and their tool steel adjusting screws, 043 castings, heads were made by Steve Tims. I used ALU HD pushrods from AIRCOOLED.NET which will be for sale probably.. |
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« Reply #128 on: December 20, 2009, 21:37:32 pm » |
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Well get a drink, and spend your afternoon reading |
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« Reply #129 on: December 20, 2009, 22:52:45 pm » |
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Yes I´ve seen that. But that topic is sometimes confused, old pics not showing and it solves many various engine configurations. and sometimes doesn´t give a clear answer.
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« Reply #130 on: December 20, 2009, 23:35:16 pm » |
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More Info.
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« Reply #131 on: December 21, 2009, 02:55:48 am » |
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I believe you have a little to much shim under the rockers. Take the smallest shim out, then try it. clean your lash cap and put some Dykem on the lash cap. assemble it back together, then turn the moter around a coulple of times. Take all apart and see where it swiped. Then go from there add or take away shims from under the rockers. Your not far off, the way it looks.
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« Reply #132 on: December 21, 2009, 14:45:22 pm » |
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Hi Jan, check out this: http://www.pauter.com/RockerInst.htmIt is for pauter rockers but will even work for the CB one´s. Watch out that you don`t block the oilsupport (adjustment screw to rocker)  Are you satisfied with the CB forged rockers? I got mine yesterday and the surface to the lash caps is really raw and coated black which begins to crack on some spots... By the way I am talking about NEW parts...And that "coat" will go into the oil system...WOW, thank`s! All rockers I saw were polished at those spots for good reasons. The cheapy 1,25 Empi rockers that I had before looked 100% better at that spot. I want to carefully fine sand & polish the surfaces before installing...Other thing is that there is no oil grove on the rocker shaft where the rocker it self sits.So no complete oiling for the rocker only a spot oiling. Even the cheap solid rocker shafts for the orig.Rockers have that groove!!! But that`s even the "quality" on most other 1.4/1.25 rockers...So I will make a groove with a lathe were the rockers sit (as original) for complete circle oiling. Not the quality I would supose for that money. All that blister shit is mainly crap and so far away from plug and play!  |
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« Reply #133 on: December 21, 2009, 16:18:36 pm » |
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thanks for the advices I´ll try to set it up with thinner shim. I micropolished the contact pad of the rocker to mirror finish before installation, seemed to be rough before. Maybe I´ll cut the oiling grooves to the shafts too it sounds like a good idea! I think I´ve seen the mod on Bob Hoover´s blog too!
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« Reply #134 on: December 22, 2009, 02:10:17 am » |
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Ah, I knew you didn`t missed that point Now even done! Have you got any info`s/experiences about the CB lash caps ? Good or do they wear out? |
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« Reply #135 on: December 22, 2009, 11:20:25 am » |
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I wont use the caps any more,
they have a small hole in the center,
and when i refreshed the engine, one of the caps had a crack through the hole,
cracked nearly for the whole diameter,
maybe i did something wrong when fitting them,
but now i use caps that are not that tight on the valve stem anymore
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« Reply #136 on: December 22, 2009, 11:50:59 am » |
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mine CB caps fitted great with a tiny tap of a rubber mallett.
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« Reply #137 on: January 07, 2010, 22:58:43 pm » |
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So, I got to this after a longer time. How does this look? I thinned the rocker spacers a little bit and came up with:  And my second stupid question, I probably know the answer, but does the wipe pattern change with the length of the pushrod? Thanks. |
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« Reply #138 on: January 08, 2010, 22:36:39 pm » |
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Taller lash caps are available to sort your problem out. The last set I got were from BERG's.
You could also mill about .050 (imperial) or 1.1mm from the rocker stands. I prefer the lash cap option.
Pushrod length doesn't/shouldn't affect the geometry.
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« Reply #139 on: January 08, 2010, 23:49:14 pm » |
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Thanks, so you would move the wipe pattern even more down then shown on the last picture?
Jan
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« Reply #140 on: January 09, 2010, 00:28:16 am » |
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Definitely. You're close. A bit more and you're there.
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« Reply #141 on: January 10, 2010, 22:44:57 pm » |
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« Reply #142 on: January 11, 2010, 01:55:01 am » |
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Special cap required for stainless steel valves with Chevy diameter springs and Berg valve spring retainers, 0.270" overall length, 0.130" depth to go over the end of the stem and adds about 0.130" to valve length. These lash caps do not have a groove on the OD.
'normal' caps add about .080
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« Reply #143 on: January 20, 2010, 20:33:30 pm » |
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« Reply #144 on: January 20, 2010, 20:35:05 pm » |
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« Reply #145 on: January 20, 2010, 20:42:45 pm » |
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I did not made any progress on the geometry so just some "in the VW mood" pics
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« Reply #146 on: January 27, 2010, 23:42:24 pm » |
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so which lash caps do you have on the valves right now?
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« Reply #147 on: January 28, 2010, 09:31:35 am » |
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Hi Zvonimir, how are things going and Happy New Year to you (although I´m late) At this time I still have CB lash caps that were delivered with CB 1.4 rockers. I´m looking for correct thickness material to have thinner shims made. |
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