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« Reply #150 on: January 28, 2010, 17:45:42 pm »

Thanks Brandon for this, our local VW supplier incidentally has some package on the shelf. I´m going to give them a try.

Jan

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« Reply #151 on: March 02, 2010, 20:49:26 pm »

Saturday is the day!

I´m going to fire it up, but I´m scared to hell something will go kaboom!

I tried my best, studied and asked a lot, and did not made any shortcuts, so we´ll see.

This is my first stroker build.

Wish me luck.
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« Reply #152 on: March 02, 2010, 20:52:03 pm »

Saturday is the day!

I´m going to fire it up, but I´m scared to hell something will go kaboom!

I tried my best, studied and asked a lot, and did not made any shortcuts, so we´ll see.

This is my first stroker build.

Wish me luck.

Good luck to you Lounger. And do not worry, it is only a engine. We build to destroy.
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« Reply #153 on: March 02, 2010, 21:42:24 pm »

Good luck!  You'll love it I'm sure.
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« Reply #154 on: March 03, 2010, 05:07:18 am »

Saturday is the day!

I´m going to fire it up, but I´m scared to hell something will go kaboom!

I tried my best, studied and asked a lot, and did not made any shortcuts, so we´ll see.

This is my first stroker build.

Wish me luck.
"don't worry ,it's just metal"  This is what Jack Sachette told me when we were getting ready fire up a new motor on his dyno.
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« Reply #155 on: March 03, 2010, 07:21:37 am »

cool. good luck

this post with video => SOON!
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« Reply #156 on: March 06, 2010, 21:21:41 pm »

ooh yeah  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #157 on: March 06, 2010, 21:37:52 pm »

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« Reply #158 on: March 06, 2010, 22:47:12 pm »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/81J7fxKBp78" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/81J7fxKBp78</a>
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« Reply #159 on: March 06, 2010, 23:01:22 pm »

Saturday is the day!

I´m going to fire it up, but I´m scared to hell something will go kaboom!

I tried my best, studied and asked a lot, and did not made any shortcuts, so we´ll see.

This is my first stroker build.

Wish me luck.
"don't worry ,it's just metal"  This is what Jack Sachette told me when we were getting ready fire up a new motor on his dyno.



Yep, and money is just paper - right?  Wink   Grin



oh, and congrats on the start up 181
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« Reply #160 on: March 06, 2010, 23:22:03 pm »

I´m fascinated. CB rotary pump pushed 100 octane Shell into the bowls, I set up the valves and timing, connected the wiring and the engine fired right up! Brought it to around 2000 and left it there for 20 or so minutes, then idled it and changed revs for maybe another hour. I checked the timing with a timing light in the meantime and set it so now it doesn´t go above 28 BTDC at revs. Checked oil level and oil leaks several times.

The engine wants to rev very qickly but did not want to return to idle so I rechecked the sync on al venturis and both carbs and now things are much better.

I forgot my camera memory card at home so I took only a crappy video with my cellphone.

Also changed idle jets to 65 so now I´m running 180 mains, 65 idles and 40 venturis, does it sound OK?

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« Reply #161 on: March 07, 2010, 11:00:40 am »

Awesome work !  Cool
 
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« Reply #162 on: March 07, 2010, 11:28:13 am »

My best guess is that the jets are to big. I would say 60/160 idle/main, but get it in the car and run some km on it while using a wideband lambda. This will tell you exactly what you need to know.
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« Reply #163 on: March 07, 2010, 11:28:33 am »

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« Reply #164 on: March 08, 2010, 21:59:08 pm »

not very representative video I took before carb sync so the whole engine is shaking and before a battery in my old camera went out.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Fvlyqv3MQkI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Fvlyqv3MQkI</a>

Loud ticking sound is a rocker axial play, this needs to be sorted out. 10:5:1 running on 100 octane (RON) premium.
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« Reply #165 on: March 11, 2010, 19:18:07 pm »

congrats Dude Wink, sort that klicking noize and it will be grate. how the exhaust sounds for You?
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« Reply #166 on: March 11, 2010, 20:18:26 pm »

looks super dude!
you WILL enjoy it Smiley
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« Reply #167 on: March 11, 2010, 20:51:15 pm »

That's great man, just got mine running on Monday at the dyno, know the feeling of success.

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« Reply #168 on: March 11, 2010, 20:55:26 pm »

I still HOPE that the ticking is rockers play. I´m sure that I´m over 0.5mm on some of them, but I just wanted to fire it up. What else could it be? The engine is miles away in my friends shop and I spend this week with thinking about that.

The exhaust is superb, nice fit, rumbly but not too loud!
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« Reply #169 on: March 11, 2010, 22:12:16 pm »

Is the noise rotional as the motor turns when running? Is it entermitten? Check your rockers like you said, make sure the rocker clears the rocker stands on the heads, Check your distributor, you have the correct shims under the distributor drive gear? An old trick, get a old broom, cut off the broom end, place the one end to where you think the noise is coming from, put your ear on the side or on top and listen, you can hear the going's on in your engine. You might be able to pin point the ticking noise, if ya do, then you can check it out. I got that from a good frien of mine and it WORKS. Ya never know.....
Oh, try taking you belt off and run it then, see if that makes a difference.

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« Reply #170 on: March 11, 2010, 22:17:52 pm »

the sound is continuous and speeds up with engine revs. Distributor drive is shimmed for correct play. It is not a knock (journal knock), it is just a ticking and I´m almost sure it comes from rocker boxes. Will sort the rockers play and I will see. Alternator is reconditioned Bosch with new quality bearings, that is not the source. Thanks, Jan
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« Reply #171 on: March 12, 2010, 18:53:06 pm »

You can run the engine with one or two valve covers off. Place something underneath to catch the oil drips.  Don't rev it up ( you'll find out why when you do so  Cheesy). You can then see what the rockers are doing. I've done this myself without problems.
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« Reply #172 on: March 14, 2010, 20:51:15 pm »

I reshimmed the sideplay on valve rockers and done the valves again, no signs of loosening the valve lash, that is good. Things got much quieter. I noticed a rub on some pushrods so stock pushrod tubes will have to go in favor of heads-up performance pushrod tubes.

Engine spent another two hours running on the stand. It is perfectly capable of 850 rpm idle, but I let it run between idle and approx 2000 rpm to promote oiling. Engine ran so cool, I´m surprised, I could touch valve covers, oil filter, oil sump after two hours of run without problem.




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« Reply #173 on: March 16, 2010, 15:40:18 pm »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/n6BHAv_nEO8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/n6BHAv_nEO8</a>
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« Reply #174 on: March 16, 2010, 17:13:25 pm »

bark! bark! sounds good Wink
hope you'll be able to drive it soon!
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« Reply #175 on: March 16, 2010, 23:52:06 pm »

Very nice gas response! Great job.
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« Reply #176 on: March 18, 2010, 11:36:40 am »

It will take a while before I take it to chassis dyno. I wonder how much HP can it make?

Quick specs: 2276, FK8 installed straight, 1.4 rockers, Manton pushrods, 42x37 by Steve Tims, 10.5:14 CR, 40 venturies, 1 5/8 exhaust. Is 160 flywheel HP real  Huh
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« Reply #177 on: March 30, 2010, 15:34:33 pm »

No guesses?:-)

I´m gonna put it into the car on saturday, what can I expect?

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« Reply #178 on: March 30, 2010, 16:26:16 pm »

I would be disappointed if it didn´t make at least 160 FW HP. But get that thing on the dyno, guessing leads nowhere.  Wink
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« Reply #179 on: March 30, 2010, 19:53:07 pm »

Definitely, but it is a nice way to spend time before I tune it and before I take it to the dyno:-)
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