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Title: Inch pincher found!
Post by: kev d on November 05, 2007, 23:16:13 pm
I also dream about finding Inch Pincher in Mexico, i do have a lead and a map of where it is but Im not sure Jack Sparrow can be trusted ! maybe one day ill climb to the top Cangandu Mountain and see if it is there, ps remeber where you read it 1st.

A hero lounger quoted earlier this evening..


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Frank LUX on November 06, 2007, 18:57:02 pm
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Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Diederick/DVK on November 06, 2007, 19:42:03 pm
 :D


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Bewitched666 on November 07, 2007, 13:19:12 pm
Think you will recognize the car Kev?? ;D


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: John Rayburn on November 08, 2007, 00:37:15 am
Why don't we charter a helocopter and go find the thing!


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: nigelg65 on November 08, 2007, 12:18:04 pm
Count me in www.type-magazine.com


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Russell on November 08, 2007, 15:17:47 pm
rummer has it is sits on top of hill in Mexico, as mentioned in my post its a dream but hey, look how many cars have been found ? you never know.

My search party is planning a trip to follow up on a few leads......... remember the following:

1 ) Finders Keepers

2) If your not first your last !


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Neil Davies on November 08, 2007, 15:31:21 pm
Ok Russell, big question here - lets say that you find the Inch Pincher Too, largely complete but in very poor condition. It's been used on some Mexican farmers fields for the last 30 years, the paint is sunbleached, the drivetrain and wheels are long gone and replaced with stock, the heater channels are rusted out and the fibreglass is cracked. Do you restore to "as new" or leave it as is? Or some halfway measure to keep the patina but still have a running driving car?


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Jon on November 08, 2007, 15:38:02 pm
Ok Russell, big question here - lets say that you find the Inch Pincher Too, largely complete but in very poor condition. It's been used on some Mexican farmers fields for the last 30 years, the paint is sunbleached, the drivetrain and wheels are long gone and replaced with stock, the heater channels are rusted out and the fibreglass is cracked. Do you restore to "as new" or leave it as is? Or some halfway measure to keep the patina but still have a running driving car?

Interesting question!


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Neil Davies on November 08, 2007, 16:34:42 pm
Interesting question!

I know! ;D Could you bring yourself to paint over that Molly paintjob, even if it was scratched and faded? Would people accuse you of building a replica? How would you replace complete panels - even if you could find an Empi door, could you have it painted to match, and then aged too?! :o


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 08, 2007, 17:32:46 pm
Or some halfway measure to keep the patina but still have a running driving car?

Thats what I would do.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: John Rayburn on November 08, 2007, 18:33:58 pm
IF it were mine and IF it needed some sort of restoration, I wouldn't do it unless Darryl Vittone did the restoation. Somehow that seems easy to justify.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: empicolector on November 08, 2007, 18:37:13 pm
everybody miss the car at last EBI  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: bathing ape on November 08, 2007, 18:37:57 pm
good luck in finding the car russell


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: nicolas on November 08, 2007, 19:17:08 pm
oh, just in case you come across don bedford's car on your quest, please pick it up, i will collect it at EBI2  ;)




... that is actually half serious... i really want to see that car or build it again some day.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Jon on November 08, 2007, 22:38:59 pm
Interesting question!

I know! ;D Could you bring yourself to paint over that Molly paintjob, even if it was scratched and faded? Would people accuse you of building a replica? How would you replace complete panels - even if you could find an Empi door, could you have it painted to match, and then aged too?! :o

I think the easies for all involved would be that the car has some hiddeous new mexican paintjob... If its still in the Molly paintjob the only option for me would be a sympathetic restauration like on Jerry Seinfelds old Porsche...


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: empicolector on November 08, 2007, 23:10:07 pm
 ;D
please russel find it


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Russell on November 09, 2007, 16:21:05 pm
the paint job will be a hiddeous mexican job and will need total redone, yes there is no wheels, engine or the nice bits, but the body is the body and therefore requires remanufacturing or restoration......... therefore it would be built as a full resto but not overdone to the quality of travis car but more of the job that was done originally.... all cars that are old have had some form of work, it be need paint, welding or mechanicals but it will get it.....


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Kobus on November 09, 2007, 16:36:04 pm
Russel! Call me!  ;D


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: empicolector on November 09, 2007, 17:57:09 pm
 :o


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Lids on November 09, 2007, 22:05:38 pm
if this is true then bend me over and ask me to pick up the soap!!!!

PS

Ritchie, i have the last bits i was waiting for.  I will sort packet next week.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Russell on November 10, 2007, 00:45:18 am
closing in................


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Tony M on November 10, 2007, 01:40:54 am
GOING TO MEXICO ON 11/16/07 - DRIVING TO CABO FROM SAN DIEGO - WILL KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR FOR IT - WILL HAVE A TRAILER GOING TOO  ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Lee.C on November 10, 2007, 02:29:41 am
closing in................

I've been sayin its only a matter of time :)

but who's gonna be the first to dig out Aronsons 63  ??? ??? ??? Now thats what I'm REALLY waiting for  ;) :)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Kobus on November 10, 2007, 13:51:19 pm
closing in................

I've been sayin its only a matter of time :)

but who's gonna be the first to dig out Aronsons 63  ??? ??? ??? Now thats what I'm REALLY waiting for  ;) :)

i did allot, i mean allot of digging for that car a few years ago... and all traces were dead ends... there is a big possibility that it ended (like soo many callookers) at a pick your part dismantler or something like that...



Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Russell on November 10, 2007, 13:53:59 pm
that 63 !!!! you should try looking around the San Fan area.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: bathing ape on November 10, 2007, 20:34:27 pm
closing in................
shit!,really?


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: empicolector on November 10, 2007, 22:51:42 pm
closing in................
:o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Bryan67 on November 11, 2007, 02:31:36 am
I don`t the Aronson is a big secret. But it was turned into a baja years ago and is probalbly not even recognizable anymore.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Lee.C on November 11, 2007, 03:13:27 am
I don`t the Aronson is a big secret. But it was turned into a baja years ago and is probalbly not even recognizable anymore.

I heard the story about becoming a Baja too BUT I also heard that the guy that now owns it KNOWS what he has and refuses to sell it ??? Anyone else heard this  ???


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on November 11, 2007, 03:56:47 am
It Is A Baja Bug Now it's in the Tustin Calif Area Dyno Knows about the Car But its all Hacked up now and it is true the Owner knows the History of the Car But should Be Shot for making it a Baja :( :(


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Russell on November 11, 2007, 13:09:50 pm
Guys

agian we have been having fun...

the 63 is not in San Fan.... more likley the rummers of it as a Baja are more true than mine......

No i havent found Inch Pincher and am not closing in..... honest and if i was i would share with you all  ;)

It would appear that Kev, KS and myself can get you all going quite qucikly..... sorry  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: bathing ape on November 11, 2007, 17:42:34 pm
we live in hope that one day it will turn up


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: empicolector on November 11, 2007, 17:46:57 pm
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Lee.C on November 11, 2007, 18:26:49 pm
It Is A Baja Bug Now it's in the Tustin Calif Area Dyno Knows about the Car But its all Hacked up now and it is true the Owner knows the History of the Car But should Be Shot for making it a Baja :( :(

Has anyone tried buying it resently  ??? :)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 11, 2007, 22:59:00 pm
Although I havent seen the car myself, I have heard for certain that it was Baja'd, the current owner knows its history, nothing of value is still on the car, and he wants an obscene amount of money for it. Its a shame, really. So you would be bending over for nothing more than a VIN... :(


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Jon on November 11, 2007, 23:16:47 pm
There are some strange things to this story.
If I had a car with this kind of history, and I knew it, I would look at the value of a "Baja" vs the cash I would get for the "history".
Then I would take it to the CLASSIC and sell it... not keeping it hidden in the valley.

If this rumor is true, that guy canīt be one of the shapest knives in the drawer.

But BOY do I hope itīs true!! :)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Russell on November 11, 2007, 23:28:16 pm
I do hope this thread ends soon !!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Lee.C on November 11, 2007, 23:29:49 pm
Although I havent seen the car myself, I have heard for certain that it was Baja'd, the current owner knows its history, nothing of value is still on the car, and he wants an obscene amount of money for it. Its a shame, really. So you would be bending over for nothing more than a VIN... :(

Even if it has been Baja'd it would be well worth saving - I have seen alot less of a car "fully restored" in the Classic car world.

So what is an"Obscene Amount" I might start saving NOW  ;) :)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Lee.C on November 11, 2007, 23:30:30 pm
I do hope this thread ends soon !!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry dude  ;) :)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Ole on December 10, 2007, 12:24:33 pm
I do hope this thread ends soon !!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Russell, but this thread cannot end before the only real picture of IP was posted...  ;) ;D

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6263/ipfoundib1.jpg)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: deano on December 10, 2007, 16:43:08 pm
I seriously doubt that the Aronson/Holmes sedan has been made into a Baja. I do not know where that rumor started from, but no more than ten years ago, it was still a sedan, albeit far from its original condition, up in Hesperia. And considering how few Baja Bugs are still being built these days, the chances that particular one was cut is rare. Back then, the owner knew it was the Aronson car, so why screw it up because he owned a Sawzall? It is proabably parked right next to the IP 1 and 2, the Anderson's Bros gasser, and the Under Dog #2....


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: empicolector on December 10, 2007, 17:56:00 pm
 :D :D :D


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 10, 2007, 22:20:00 pm
I seriously doubt that the Aronson/Holmes sedan has been made into a Baja. I do not know where that rumor started from, but no more than ten years ago, it was still a sedan, albeit far from its original condition, up in Hesperia.

That is what I was told from one of the car's former owners about 3 years ago. I think he said he bought it from Jim Holmes, then he sold it, somewhere along the line a woman got hold of the car, it was wrecked and susequently baja'd. Cant remember his name.... Does Bill Richardson ring a bell?? Something like that- I still have his business card somewhere, Ill try to find it tonight.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on December 10, 2007, 22:32:32 pm
I heard the Same Thing Zach I heard it got Wrecked and then turned into a Baja But I have heard it is in Tustin Ca. We Should Ask Dyno He Know's alot about that car


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: deano on December 10, 2007, 23:17:16 pm
I stand by my story.... No Baja. Christie who lived in Tustin at the time, purchased the car from Holmes for $3800ish complete. Over a period of time, the wheels, engine, and back seat were sold off, and then the car was put up for sale. I saw the car with Bill Rogers.... in her/their gargage, and the asking price was $1200. I passed (sick). Years later, I located it again, this time up in Hesperia, and talked to the owner. Many things were changed, not much left from the glory days. Again, no Baja, no crash after it left Christie's hands. Holmes did crash the car, back about 1976. But Beckers put it back together. I called Dyno, and he confirmed much of this.


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 10, 2007, 23:24:23 pm
Bill Rogers!! That was it!


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on December 11, 2007, 00:52:29 am
Bill Rogers!! That was it!
Bill Rogers he was in DKP wasnt he? I Remember him Hanging out with Roger Greco I think he also Had A Ghia? (it was Blue and he Painted it Black with Alloys) I Think he use to Work at Williams Volvo in Buena Park in the 70's I always saw it parked in the street when I use to Go to the Auto Haus Warehouse


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: dyno don on December 11, 2007, 18:22:22 pm
.....that car has/had some very good history for sure/ bill rogers is a good friend of mine  and christy..the prior owner was a room mate of mine during her ownership and i was the one who did a "lot" of work on the car...for a small 1700 with an engle 110 cam that car was impressive(after tune up/carb work..etc..) considering it had the shit beat out of it for several years with virtually little problems ..she became detached with her love for the car and had to pay bills so she pieced out the car as mentioned by deano...sad but true..!!    my good friend bill taormina tried an attemp to duplicate the original car years later and>> was close but not quite as it had its share of things that were not to the original specs but did have in fact a full on fat performance drivetrain and original brm's...>>this was in fact the car many people saw and remember me driving and doing a full on burnout at gene bergs funeral service/(just the way gene would have wanted it)..!!    later on was sold to mr.kamori of flat four    ...now back to the pincher>>>??


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: empicolector on December 11, 2007, 19:51:17 pm
 :o :o


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Lee.C on December 11, 2007, 20:54:36 pm
.....that car has/had some very good history for sure/ bill rogers is a good friend of mine  and christy..the prior owner was a room mate of mine during her ownership and i was the one who did a "lot" of work on the car...for a small 1700 with an engle 110 cam that car was impressive(after tune up/carb work..etc..) considering it had the shit beat out of it for several years with virtually little problems ..she became detached with her love for the car and had to pay bills so she pieced out the car as mentioned by deano...sad but true..!!    my good friend bill taormina tried an attemp to duplicate the original car years later and>> was close but not quite as it had its share of things that were not to the original specs but did have in fact a full on fat performance drivetrain and original brm's...>>this was in fact the car many people saw and remember me driving and doing a full on burnout at gene bergs funeral service/(just the way gene would have wanted it)..!!    later on was sold to mr.kamori of flat four    ...now back to the pincher>>>??

Hmmmmmm Interesting dude - Anyway back to the INCH PINCHER ;) :) so where was the last you saw it dude  ???

P.S sorry about this Russ  ;) :)


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: speedwell on December 11, 2007, 21:57:17 pm
.....that car has/had some very good history for sure/ bill rogers is a good friend of mine  and christy..the prior owner was a room mate of mine during her ownership and i was the one who did a "lot" of work on the car...for a small 1700 with an engle 110 cam that car was impressive(after tune up/carb work..etc..) considering it had the shit beat out of it for several years with virtually little problems ..she became detached with her love for the car and had to pay bills so she pieced out the car as mentioned by deano...sad but true..!!    my good friend bill taormina tried an attemp to duplicate the original car years later and>> was close but not quite as it had its share of things that were not to the original specs but did have in fact a full on fat performance drivetrain and original brm's...>>this was in fact the car many people saw and remember me driving and doing a full on burnout at gene bergs funeral service/(just the way gene would have wanted it)..!!    later on was sold to mr.kamori of flat four    ...now back to the pincher>>>??
sorry guys but just for my buddy dyno  8)
here's bill's car  :o featured in volksworld feb 96  ,dyno go to this links for more pictures of the report : http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,3377.0.html#new (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,3377.0.html#new)
rgd
 eagle eyes  ;D


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: Russell on December 11, 2007, 23:17:51 pm
Thanks Zach for the number, spoke with Bill and as you all know bill sold it to the girl who sold it onto a man in southern cal. and the story stops there for the time being......


Title: Re: Inch pincher found!
Post by: 58vw on December 12, 2007, 00:41:40 am
ya...he also has the remains to bigfoot