WANTED: x2 NOS Weber 48 IDA's Preferable BOXED! Price: u tell me £$£$£$£

[Russell]

Lee

I will get some pictures for you to review, your offer while nice seems a little high and if they are what you want and i decided to not use them and sell them, you will have first refusal, let me get the pictures first, will post them on here so anyone interested can see.

Russell

[WCB Hitler's Hot Rod]

Hey Russell, I sold you those carbs and linkage kit that I thought you would keep. If your looking to get rid of them or not happy with the sale I will buy them back. No problem!! You will never find a combination kit like that ever again. Please let me know.

[Russell]

Steve

You should have pm'd me first, the carbs and empi linkage you sold me are on old school motor in my black 57. I have 2 other sets one of which is going on the period motor for lightening bug before it goes on show at the NHRA. And the other well I might sell if it helps the right car look right, I also have numerous sets of used in fact a solex pict carb is more rare in my shop, almost as rare as a fake BRM. !!! 

LOL

Russell

[WCB Hitler's Hot Rod]

------> move on------>

[OC1967vw]

Although your understanding of 48IDA history and design may be in question, good luck in your proposed sale to Lee (monkiboy?)

My understanding of the 48IDA history is not in question, your understanding of the written word maybe..... what i said was that they suit and look better on a VW engine, that is a preference not a fact, i realise they weren't designed for the VW but they do look and sound fantastic on a 4 cylinder VW.

Russell
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Whatever. You are certainly entitled to your "preference".

My position is based on fact.
Nothing is better than 4 48 IDAs on a 427/428 Ford Cobra or a 427 Chevy.
As Porsche is fond of saying, "Nothing even comes close".

[Russell]

OC1967vw "Orange County 1967 VW" ? Who are you ? You seem to be easily upset on here, this is calm place normally  , lets see some pictures of your car please.

This is a VW with empasis on Cal Look and racing Forum, we would all be mad not to think that a VW is better with 48's than some american V8, also our VW cal look and race pioneers used to race and beat regulary on both the strip and street.

I am not arguing that 48's dont sound fantastic on a V8 they do, but they do sound better when behind...........

RELAX.

Russell

[OC1967vw]

OC1967vw "Orange County 1967 VW" ? Who are you ? You seem to be easily upset on here, this is calm place normally  , lets see some pictures of your car please.

This is a VW with empasis on Cal Look and racing Forum, we would all be mad not to think that a VW is better with 48's than some american V8, also our VW cal look and race pioneers used to race and beat regulary on both the strip and street.

I am not arguing that 48's dont sound fantastic on a V8 they do, but they do sound better when behind...........

RELAX.

Russell

Again. Whatever. You are certainly entitled to your "preference" but I very much doubt that you can "relax". Try to do it IN LOWER CASE

My position is based on fact.
Nothing is better than 4 48 IDAs on a 427/428 Ford Cobra or a 427 Chevy. or for that matter a VW. Have owned and experienced both.

Again Paying strict attention to the Porsche philosophy-"Nothing even comes close".

Best of luck in your sale to Lee/Monkiboy

[Fasterbrit]

So, anyone fancy a nice period pair of matched  46 IDAs instead of those dreadfully common, ubiquitous 48s?  Might have a pair up for grabs... 

Hey Lee, I also have a lovely pair of 48s that have been stripped, ultrasonically cleaned and assembled with great care. Not nos I know, but very good condition. They are second generation, Bologna, Italy carbs. Very sweet ... Might be an alternative if you get stuck.

[Lee.C]

So, anyone fancy a nice period pair of matched  46 IDAs instead of those dreadfully common, ubiquitous 48s?  Might have a pair up for grabs... 

Hey Lee, I also have a lovely pair of 48s that have been stripped, ultrasonically cleaned and assembled with great care. Not nos I know, but very good condition. They are second generation, Bologna, Italy carbs. Very sweet ... Might be an alternative if you get stuck.

Thanks for the offers matt - I miught well be in touch 

[OC1967vw]

So, anyone fancy a nice period pair of matched  46 IDAs instead of those dreadfully common, ubiquitous 48s?  Might have a pair up for grabs...  

Hey Lee, I also have a lovely pair of 48s that have been stripped, ultrasonically cleaned and assembled with great care. Not nos I know, but very good condition. They are second generation, Bologna, Italy carbs. Very sweet ... Might be an alternative if you get stuck.

Thanks for the offers matt - I miught well be in touch  

46IDAs should be marked 46IDA2 or 46IDA3. Made for the 904GTS with the type 587 Carrera 4 cylinder motor for the Porsche factory. Strictly competition.

Factory had planned to use the new 911 6 cylinder motor in the 904 but scotched the plan and reverted to the Carrera 587 motor. The factory made a special production run of the 901 6 cylinder motor in magnesium (as opposed to production aluminum case) for the 906 (the 901/20) which was topped by a special run of 46IDA carburetors in a 3 barrel version for competition use by the factory race team.  This set the stage for the development of the production 46IDA3C carburetor (not competition) for the 911 in 1965.

[Fasterbrit]

Five years back I sold a pair of Nos boxed 46ida3c carbs. Big mistake! Especially for the money I sold them for... Oh well, you live and learn. They were also used on the 911 R

What's an excellent, unrestored pair of 46 IDA3  (2 barrel) worth these days?

[OC1967vw]

Five years back I sold a pair of Nos boxed 46ida3c carbs. Big mistake! Especially for the money I sold them for... Oh well, you live and learn. They were also used on the 911 R

What's an excellent, unrestored pair of 46 IDA3  (2 barrel) worth these days?

Most likely I would recommend any of the Porsche Vintage blog sites which also have buy/sell sections.
Good luck

[Fast Eddie]

This is a brilliant thread , informative ( about IDA's ) and entertaining ( watching monkeyboy getting all wound Up ha ha )

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[Peter]

it was me and a few Norwegian friends that really got this forum going

Now this is funny 

[Lee.C]

Just look at my member numer dude  (cough cough 65) I just think I did a lot of "spreading the word" Thats all 

Anyway back to the topic in hand - Russell are yours the "Early" or Later mass produced type???

ie do they have those little triangle bosses mention earlier in this thread 

[Rennsurfer]

OC1967vw, just wanted to say thank you for the interesting posts regarding IDA carbs. Quite informative.

[Russell]

Some photos of my spare 48 IDA's   

[Lids]

Russell, looking at that pic, I can only presume you need another 6-7 cars to complete your collection.

Lee how do you know your member number, mine doesn't show up.

[Rocket Ron]

Lids you are number 352, one after me 

[Russell]

I don't know mine either ?... Ron can you help

[Lee.C]

342 Russell 

And as for those pictures - That is just PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll take one pair (boxed) Please 

I also noticed the pair of "early type" in BLACK 

[speedwell]

ok i beat you  guys ,i"m number 7 

[Lee.C]

yeah I saw that dude 

so back to the IDA's - As I said before, I'll take one pair (boxed)  please Russell   

[kingsburgphil]

48- ida's
« Sent to: OC1967vw on: December 01, 2011, 23:43:29 PM »      

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Hey   Sorry if I sounded a little "off" in my posts but we have been starting to get a few idiots here on the lounge and I sometimes get a little protective hehehehe it was me and a few Norwegian friends that really got this forum going - So once again Sorry  

Anyway back to the IDA's - I have been checking out some pic's and I never noticed that triangle boss before - Funny   They look so much cooler without it  

Now for the BIG question: What sort of money do these carbs go for? AND would you ever be willing to part with a pair/sell me a pair?

Check out some of the parts I already have for a 66 Cal Looker I am going to build VERY soon  
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,8725.0.html

Anyway I hope to hear from you soon
Take Care
Regards
Lee aka monkiboy


not a problem. You should realize that the original 48IDA carburetors (as in the David Mayes ones in the pictures above sold by an Oregon friend of mine) were sand castings made in Bologna.  Given consumer demand in later years, Fiat Spa/Weber switched from a sand casting manufacturing process to a stamped carburetor that was then finish machined to a high state. The stamped carburetor has a stronger body as the cast body may crack (very much like sand cast BRM Wheels-see Ultimate Factories-Ferrari for a video on their sand casting process which is not unlike what was done for the early 48IDAs). These were mass produced to meet market demand (much of it driven by VW enthusiasts over the years) and much of what is used by VW enthusiasts are these stamped second generation Italian and Spanish carburetors with the production run numbers stamped into the flange base as opposed to serial numbers. There are other noticeable differences between the original sand cast 48IDAs from the mass produced stamped 48IDAs.

As to cost I deal with the American market.  If you were to find NOS sand cast 48s in the box in Europe they most likely were brought in by an enthusiast/enthusiasts sometime in the last 45+ years from the US as these carburetors were not available in Europe and would be pricey no doubt. You must remember that the sand cast 48iDAs were strictly a competition only carburetor and not designed for long life or long term street use as other Weber carburetors. Given the current state of the European economy and exchange rates to the dollar, it is hard to say.  As to selling mine they are not for sale. Sorry. Mine are for my VW motors and some Cobra friends. Again, good luck in your search and on your project motor.

I'm no expert here , but what exactly is a "stamped" 48IDA.?  I'm assuming you mean stamped like a coin in a press, or do you mean "stamped out by the thousands" ?.

Having worked around high pressure die casting machines, you've piqued my interest 

[OC1967vw]

48- ida's
« Sent to: OC1967vw on: December 01, 2011, 23:43:29 PM »      

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Hey   Sorry if I sounded a little "off" in my posts but we have been starting to get a few idiots here on the lounge and I sometimes get a little protective hehehehe it was me and a few Norwegian friends that really got this forum going - So once again Sorry  

Anyway back to the IDA's - I have been checking out some pic's and I never noticed that triangle boss before - Funny   They look so much cooler without it  

Now for the BIG question: What sort of money do these carbs go for? AND would you ever be willing to part with a pair/sell me a pair?

Check out some of the parts I already have for a 66 Cal Looker I am going to build VERY soon  
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,8725.0.html

Anyway I hope to hear from you soon
Take Care
Regards
Lee aka monkiboy


not a problem. You should realize that the original 48IDA carburetors (as in the David Mayes ones in the pictures above sold by an Oregon friend of mine) were sand castings made in Bologna.  Given consumer demand in later years, Fiat Spa/Weber switched from a sand casting manufacturing process to a stamped carburetor that was then finish machined to a high state. The stamped carburetor has a stronger body as the cast body may crack (very much like sand cast BRM Wheels-see Ultimate Factories-Ferrari for a video on their sand casting process which is not unlike what was done for the early 48IDAs). These were mass produced to meet market demand (much of it driven by VW enthusiasts over the years) and much of what is used by VW enthusiasts are these stamped second generation Italian and Spanish carburetors with the production run numbers stamped into the flange base as opposed to serial numbers. There are other noticeable differences between the original sand cast 48IDAs from the mass produced stamped 48IDAs.

As to cost I deal with the American market.  If you were to find NOS sand cast 48s in the box in Europe they most likely were brought in by an enthusiast/enthusiasts sometime in the last 45+ years from the US as these carburetors were not available in Europe and would be pricey no doubt. You must remember that the sand cast 48iDAs were strictly a competition only carburetor and not designed for long life or long term street use as other Weber carburetors. Given the current state of the European economy and exchange rates to the dollar, it is hard to say.  As to selling mine they are not for sale. Sorry. Mine are for my VW motors and some Cobra friends. Again, good luck in your search and on your project motor.

I'm no expert here , but what exactly is a "stamped" 48IDA.?  I'm assuming you mean stamped like a coin in a press, or do you mean "stamped out by the thousands" ?.

Having worked around high pressure die casting machines, you've piqued my interest  

KP,
you have it right-just like a quarter-bodies were just stamped out (high pressure die) to meet the increased demand. Couild not have met that demand if they had manufactured the carbs as they did the original ones that are serial numbered-these were hand made by Weber to order.

[OC1967vw]

MB

so did you purchase your carburatori due for your project?

regards in the new year

[Lee.C]

MB

so did you purchase your carburatori due for your project?

regards in the new year

Not yet 

[Fasterbrit]

Not nos, but very nice carbs even if I do say so myself... ahem 

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,17677.0.html

[OC1967vw]

Not nos, but very nice carbs even if I do say so myself... ahem 

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,17677.0.html

nice looking set of later production 48IDAs. MB, these look like a good deal for your project.

[Bruce]

. You should realize that the original 48IDA carburetors ...... were sand castings made in Bologna.  Given consumer demand in later years, Fiat Spa/Weber switched from a sand casting manufacturing process to a stamped carburetor that was then finish machined to a high state. The stamped carburetor has a stronger body as the cast body may crack
 There are other noticeable differences between the original sand cast 48IDAs from the mass produced stamped 48IDAs.

Can you post pics of both types showing the differences?