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Title: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Jim Ratto on November 09, 2007, 01:40:46 am
I don't know if I ever have seen a chopped Notch. Visualizing it I think it may be waaay too ugly? I don't know.

What do you think?



Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Carlos De Alba on November 09, 2007, 01:42:30 am
PLEASE DON'T...............   >:(



It would be UGLY and STUPID........... Sorry........that is my point of view !!!


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 09, 2007, 02:10:08 am
They are ugly... but all the ones Ive seen werent done right, IMO. They usually stretch the roof out too much. I think the way to do a Notch is to not cut the rear window at all and just lean it forward instead of adding metal and stretching the roof out. I think a mild 3" chop with the rear window leaned forward would look bitchin'.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: louisb on November 09, 2007, 02:28:43 am
It makes them look like they have a big nose. Now if you chopped and sectioned it, maybe. A square looks pretty good chopped. I have not seen a fasty chopped yet, but I think it could be done too.

--louis


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Donny B. on November 09, 2007, 02:49:20 am
I don't care for chop top VWs.  Sorry that's my story and I am sticking to it.  Notchbacks are worse than Bugs.  I don't care how well they are done.  Chog jobs are for 32 fords.....


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 09, 2007, 02:52:31 am
A Fasty would be a nightmare to make look good. You wouldnt want to lean the rear window down or else you would put a "kink" in the back... and leaning the whole rear section down would be an ungodly amount of work. You would have to stretch the roof... and given the low angle of the rear window, you would have to stretch it a whole lot. I dont think it could be done tastefully.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 09, 2007, 02:53:32 am
I don't care for chop top VWs.  Sorry that's my story and I am sticking to it.  Notchbacks are worse than Bugs.  I don't care how well they are done.  Chog jobs are for 32 fords.....

Just wait til this one is done ;)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Donny B. on November 09, 2007, 03:18:37 am
The only chop top Bug that I really liked was the one from SCS.  It was a Pro Sedan car and it was chopped only 1 1/2 inches.  Until it was next to a stock bodied car you couldn't tell what was done.  That was a long time ago.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: javabug on November 09, 2007, 03:22:16 am
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/27355.jpg)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: louisb on November 09, 2007, 04:14:08 am
I don't care for chop top VWs.  Sorry that's my story and I am sticking to it.  Notchbacks are worse than Bugs.  I don't care how well they are done.  Chog jobs are for 32 fords.....

I am going to disagree with you there. A properly chopped bug looks really cool. But like choppng a 40 ford, it is really hard to do right. Otherwise you lose the curve of the roof. Tar Babe is still probably the best chop I have seen on a bug. I have always wanted to do a similar chop, but I am scared I would end up not fitting into the car lol.

--louis


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: louisb on November 09, 2007, 04:16:20 am
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/27355.jpg)

The body is out of proportion to the top. Take an inch or two out of the body and it would look right. a 1/3 top to 2/3s body is about right. (Unless you are building a Pearson Brothers coupe clone.)

--louis


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Jim Ratto on November 09, 2007, 04:16:31 am
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/27355.jpg)

yep ugly
ruins proportions of the car.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: stealth67vw on November 09, 2007, 04:35:35 am
It was built by the same guy who built the M&M green chop.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on November 09, 2007, 05:38:29 am
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/27355.jpg)

yep ugly
ruins proportions of the car.
Looks like a Chrysler300 with 24's   Big car low Top  Dose not look Right


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: The Ideaman on November 09, 2007, 05:51:36 am
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/324198.jpg)
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/275242.jpg)
I like this one...
Don't care for chopped Notchbacks, though.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Bewitched666 on November 09, 2007, 08:10:33 am
I like the chopped bugs and squarebacks,notches and fastbacks look ugly imo ;D


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: nicolas on November 09, 2007, 08:36:44 am
a notch really looks like a grandpops car, so it should be kept like that. a wolf in sheepsclothes. a notch and fastback for that matter have long high sidepanels compared to a bug that has the wings that give it a whole different curve. i have looked at a few choptops and the roof is too small compared to the body.
i have thought about a chopped fastback to have that porsche look even more, but it won't work, because of the wings. the porsche has rounder, bulkier fenders that give it a totally different look.



Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: jick on November 09, 2007, 09:40:11 am
in an old volksworld, maybe early/mid 90's there's a shot of a red angle chopped fastback drag race car at a USA race meet, i thought it looked great.

imagine a full on 70's style cal-look, india red, dechromed, angle chopped fastback, T-bars, bare empi 8 spokes, heavy rake, 1piece windows.......

it might make a nice change.............


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Neil Davies on November 09, 2007, 10:14:46 am
in an old volksworld, maybe early/mid 90's there's a shot of a red angle chopped fastback drag race car at a USA race meet, i thought it looked great.

imagine a full on 70's style cal-look, india red, dechromed, angle chopped fastback, T-bars, bare empi 8 spokes, heavy rake, 1piece windows.......

it might make a nice change.............

Scott Kelley's racec ar, sponsored by Toyo Tyres and Bugpack, I think!


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: alfie the monster on November 09, 2007, 11:35:18 am
Chopped Beetles can look awesome, but if they're not done right they look awful!

There's a chop build looming on the horizon for the club, I guarantee the proportions will be 100% and it'll look superb. Oh and it won't have a rag top roof either, as he says that's cheating  ;)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Fastbrit on November 09, 2007, 12:11:36 pm
I rest my case for the defence...
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/Photokernow/burnout.jpg)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/Photokernow/Flashback.jpg)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/Photokernow/yourcar.jpg)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/Photokernow/kawell.jpg)
 :)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Neil Davies on November 09, 2007, 13:42:18 pm
I rest my case for the defence...
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/Photokernow/Flashback.jpg)

 :)

I loved this car. That's why I bought a chopped bug to race... ;)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: lowfastbus on November 09, 2007, 15:06:46 pm
This one was for sale in Sweden a year or two ago... a friend went to see it from belgium (1500kms) but it was a real basket case...



Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 09, 2007, 17:04:20 pm
Oh and it won't have a rag top roof either, as he says that's cheating  ;)

How is it cheating?!  :P


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: alfie the monster on November 09, 2007, 17:55:09 pm
Less roof to keep the profile looking right  ;)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 09, 2007, 18:15:04 pm
Pfff. Its no different, really. Its not like I stretched out the sunroof section on the one Im doing.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Joe_G on November 09, 2007, 19:18:22 pm
Nice propotions on this one :)

(http://www.ultravw.com/images/ratcatcher_00.jpg)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Fastbrit on November 09, 2007, 19:40:11 pm
Off topic – Joe, don't you ever check your PMs!  ;D


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Joe_G on November 09, 2007, 19:43:49 pm
This might be a nice one if it ever gets done!!

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cf28b3127ccebfd42de51bd000000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

You still after a project Matt??  It's cheap!!  ;)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Joe_G on November 09, 2007, 19:47:49 pm
Off topic – Joe, don't you ever check your PMs!  ;D

Oops  :-[ :-[ :-[

Back in bit!!! 
Off topic - Are you still collecting literature??


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Russell on November 09, 2007, 19:51:30 pm
Im 100% behind keith (again !) on the chops he has posted they are all cool. Not sure Ive seen a chop notch i like but if there is one that come along that deserves the credit, then well done.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Griebel on November 10, 2007, 10:35:59 am
Ugly or not...

Here's one from "back then"...Mr.Steinicks chopped notch..

http://www.griebel.blogspot.com


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: sam P on November 11, 2007, 13:21:32 pm
Quote
i have thought about a chopped fastback to have that porsche look even more, but it won't work, because of the wings. the porsche has rounder, bulkier fenders that give it a totally different look.
Something like this? 


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Diederick/DVK on November 11, 2007, 13:34:50 pm
damn, that literally is a porsche roof!
i despise the front of the car, but that roof looks stunning.

still, there is something in this photo that just doesn't fit right...  :-\


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: speedwell on November 11, 2007, 14:01:15 pm
watch this one at bug in 30 and if we look closely it's a chop top with t top


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: nicolas on November 11, 2007, 19:27:34 pm
Quote
i have thought about a chopped fastback to have that porsche look even more, but it won't work, because of the wings. the porsche has rounder, bulkier fenders that give it a totally different look.
Something like this? 


yep that is the one. i saw it in UltraVW when they did something about Japan. and i personally think a type3 fastback is somewhere between a flattened beetle and a raised porsche. if this makes sense... but it is something of it's own alltogether. you don't need to mess with the lines of the car. it is perfect as it is.  ;D


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 11, 2007, 23:02:00 pm
Horrifying. Abselutely horrifying.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Jon on November 13, 2007, 23:05:52 pm
I found this Swedish Notch on Griebels nice Danish blog
http://griebel.blogspot.com/ (http://griebel.blogspot.com/)


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Carlos De Alba on November 13, 2007, 23:28:39 pm
Horrifying. Abselutely horrifying.

I got to agree with you !!!!    ;D


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Luftkraft on November 14, 2007, 11:05:11 am
I think that chopped type 3s are ugly, because the lower roofline doesn't improve the overall look. there are no better flowing lines resulting, it just looks like a type 3 with a lower roof. so what? different story on a beetle, though. Flashback e.g. has got a beautiful roof chop. But there are others...

that 311 creation from Japan is, let's say, interesting. :) I think its main problem is the front that looks way too heavy for the car. the very low sitting front bumper should be raised. might look better, I tried to photoshop this:



Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: javabug on November 14, 2007, 14:13:20 pm
Where's the pic of the T3 that looks like a skateboard?  I've seen it, but can't find it anywhere now.


Title: Re: any roof chopped Notchbacks? Or are they UGGGLY?
Post by: Joe_G on November 14, 2007, 14:32:45 pm
Do you mean this one??

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cf35b3127ccebf8ba555cc3100000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cf35b3127ccebf8ba553cc3700000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

Here is an old PaintBox car  :)

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b1ce39b3127cce9f524f0453ae00000046108QYs2zhyyZ-)