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louisb
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« on: June 21, 2007, 04:37:57 am »

I need some input for the rear of my '67. Target for the car is low 13a/high 12s and it will see mostly street use. What do I need to do it right the first time? I figure urethane bushings and SAW axles. Do I need heavy duty spring plates? Bigger torsions? Shocks? Oil, gas, adjustable? I know bus snubbers used to be the thing, but folks are saying that is a bad idea now. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2007, 14:41:18 pm »

67's have pretty weak torsion bars from the factory. A 67 with high miles can be tough to dial in, especially a vert. With my latest build I installed new 26MM bars with no sacrifice in ride quality. I found that the bars didn't settle, so the position you install them is where they stay (this is why I had to drop it slightly when I had it in Socal) Sarge helped. Wink I'm now using new stock inner rubber with JCL outers. Urethane bushings can be noisy. Run stock shocks and spring plates.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2007, 15:06:28 pm »

Thanks for the input Lanny. BTW, great car!

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2007, 15:55:29 pm »

My set-up uses SAW short axles, Type III drum brakes, SAW adjustable spring plates, urethane bushings, SAW 24mm torsions, and Koni adjustable shocks (set full soft).  I was using bus snubbers but went back to stock to get some suspension travel.  The adjustable spring plates were purchased before the 24 mm torsions and I feel aren't really necessary with the stiffer bars as Lanny pointed out.  BTW the only help I was able to give Lanny was with drinking his beer  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2007, 16:00:51 pm »

Can you still get Koni's for the VW?

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2007, 17:30:15 pm »

.  BTW the only help I was able to give Lanny was with drinking his beer  Wink

Thats called emotional support. I wish I could have made it down for some emotional support for the Classic. Maybe next year I'll drink all your beer  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2007, 17:37:22 pm »

Can you still get Koni's for the VW?

--louis

Yes!  Try these guys:  www.shox.com



Thats called emotional support. I wish I could have made it down for some emotional support for the Classic. Maybe next year I'll drink all your beer  Grin


Why wait for the Classic...I need "support" right NOW!  Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2007, 19:18:46 pm »

i am from the netherlands, where koni is from, i will have a look at the price's over here for you....
i am sure they still are made...
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2007, 06:06:25 am »

Interesting.... Lanny, do you recall at what degree did you set your spring plates at to get your currect ride stance?
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2007, 21:55:35 pm »

Oh boy, that's a good question. I built the pan with the 26mm bars installed the way I usually do with stock bars. This proved to be too high as the bars didn't settle. To drop it where it sits now, I had to start from scratch as the new bars don't 'sag' like the stock ones do.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 10:08:43 am »

Can you still get Koni's for the VW?

--louis

I tried to get them over here in the netherlands and contacted KONI but they are no longer making them, so when you want them and see them, take'm
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 10:32:22 am »

That’s strange, I bought mine about a month ago, here in Poland. They didn’t have them in stock, they had to get them from KONI. I took about a week. The price was about 80$  each (reds).
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2007, 13:29:53 pm »

I got a quote of $105 us here in the states. I don't think those were the adjustable ones though.

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2007, 14:05:30 pm »

I got a quote of $105 us here in the states. I don't think those were the adjustable ones though.

--louis

I thought all of them are. What color are they? On Bugs, I saw only red and yellow ones and they are adjustable.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2007, 14:28:37 pm »

Maybe they are, I don't know. Not sure on the color, this was a direct quote from the place Sarge recommended.

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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2007, 17:24:57 pm »

The best price I have found online...

http://www.eshocks.com/bil_veh.asp?Model_Index=4Q45&Manf=Koni&SubChar=Q
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