Impressions of CSP 5 x 205 front discs?

[Jim Ratto]

If you're running CSP front discs, 5x205 style, would you please share your impression of performance, install, servicing/maintenance?

Thank you,

Jim R.

[Martin S.]

I just sold a rear Type 3 brake kit to a guy who is running them and he said they were a beautiful kit and worth the money. I'm probably the only one wondering about the weight of these kits as that isn't listed. The cheapo rear disk brakes I have on my swing are super heavy. The rotor/hub alone weighs more than the entire stock brake, then you have a gigantic heavy cast iron caliper to add to that. I can feel the extra weight while driving.

[eugene]

Here is a review ad comparison between CSP and AIRkewild type3 front disc brake kit with some info.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=633909&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[Sarge]

My experience with CSP has been nothing short of great but I have nothing to really compare to other then worn-out, stock '67 drum brakes.  Coupled with
Type III rear drum brakes, the car stops as good as the front 145/15 Michelin XZX tires will hold   The brakes have been on the car for quite a few years now and
I've yet to replace the pads;  I'd recommend CSP.  Don't forget to do your homework on narrowed axle beams and spindles... make sure you've got everything
covered!  For what it's worth, I'm still using a stock '67 master cylinder with no residual pressure valves.  Flexible brake lines are braided stainless with teflon inside.

[axam48ida]

I have a set on my oval for the past ten years and they are great.

[Olaf A./DFL]

I have the 5x130 CSP Zero Offset front disc brake installed since 2008 and never had any issues - installation was plug 'n play - stops the car precise as it should be - Quality Parts at its best!

[Andrew]

I have the 5x130 CSP Zero Offset front disc brake installed since 2008 and never had any issues - installation was plug 'n play - stops the car precise as it should be - Quality Parts at its best!

Think of CSP myself. I you have dropped BJ spindles, 5x205 wheels, need to work out which of many kits fits. TUV Approval a good thing.

Read elsewhere that you should change to a master that has a residual pressure valve so interested to hear Sarge runs the stock 67 master.

Anyone fitted a servo? Does it need one?

Andrew

[Steve67]

I had them on my 67 with stock rear brakes and stock dual circuit master. The brakes have good quality and bwork very well. The combination with original rear brakes and 145 Firestones in the front is not ideal, the front wheels are blocking very fast. Now I have Type 3 front brakes with 40 mm drums and 19 mm wheel cylinders in the rear which is much better.
I would recommend to update the rear brake as well or at leat run wider front tires.

[pupjoint]

i fitted a set of US made brake kit. super heavy rotors. absolute rubbish. car doesnt stop any better than with drums, if not worse.  i removed it a week later and replaced with a CSP kit. best thing i have ever done. go German for  brakes.

[Rick Meredith]

I did a conversion to KG brakes well before kits were available. Used some junkyard KG spindles and bought everything else new. Dust shields, spindle nuts and center caps came from the dealer. Calipers, pads, bearings, and rotors came from the auto parts store I worked at and I had a set of braided stainless hose made up. I used the '67 master. Me recollection was that it was identical between the Beetle and the KG.

Never had an issue with it.

[Tobi/DFL]

Hi Jim,

I am running CSP discs on all 4 corners (vented in front) since about 10 years now and can only recommend them if you are looking for a well engineered kit and a trouble free installation. I use the brakes with the recommended CSP master cylinder and the car´s stopping power is superb. The weak link here is the small 155R15 front tyre...
Bye,

Tobi

[javabug]

I like that CSP has an actual vented rotor.

[Andrew]

Hi Jim,

I am running CSP discs on all 4 corners (vented in front) since about 10 years now and can only recommend them if you are looking for a well engineered kit and a trouble free installation. I use the brakes with the recommended CSP master cylinder and the car´s stopping power is superb. The weak link here is the small 155R15 front tyre...
Bye,

Tobi

So the recommendation is to fit them all round to maintain brake balance?

   thanks,

Andrew

[Jim Ratto]

Thanks for all the positive reviews. Sounds like a sure home run. It's the next big step on my '67

Have a good holiday

Jim

[Martin S.]

I recommend reading Fred Puhn's book, Brake Handbook cover to cover. You won't regret it. https://www.amazon.ca/Brake-Handbook-Fred-Puhn/dp/0895862328

[Jim Ratto]

I have it, and his handling book.

[axam48ida]

I got a set for my oval when they first came out. They came with 12mm studs.  I am using a 2" narrow beam with custom steel wheels to give that stock look. I never add any issues and got another zero offset kit for 63. The only bummer is making them work with bubble Erco or centerlines.  I think I got it to work with Erco on the 63. What would be nice Is to mount a 4 or 6 piston wildwood or brembo caliper.