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Title: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: vwhelmot on January 04, 2015, 17:14:17 pm
I bought my cal looker back and wondered why the handling and steering was horrible. I only drove it for about six miles before I stripped the car completely and this is what I found. It was very dangerous , wandered all over the road and very hard to keep in a straight line. I will be buying a set of needle bearings and seals. I wonder how the hell it vanished and serves as a warning. Check yours if you have any!


(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/vwhelmot/bfj999b%20rebuild/33942156-CA1D-4D17-86B2-1D300D9B5FF4.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/vwhelmot/media/bfj999b%20rebuild/33942156-CA1D-4D17-86B2-1D300D9B5FF4.jpg.html)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/vwhelmot/bfj999b%20rebuild/54F456AC-CCD6-4A64-AD78-AB06E1C7B64E.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/vwhelmot/media/bfj999b%20rebuild/54F456AC-CCD6-4A64-AD78-AB06E1C7B64E.jpg.html)




Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: leec on January 04, 2015, 18:13:43 pm
I would be changing the one on the steering box also

Lee


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: vwhelmot on January 04, 2015, 18:40:01 pm
I will definitely. Who thought they were a good idea?!


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: Jim M on January 04, 2015, 22:04:59 pm
Are the needle bearings available?


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: vwhelmot on January 04, 2015, 22:53:12 pm
Shouldn't be a problem.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: javabug on January 05, 2015, 01:28:59 am
I used to despise poly, but with age sometimes comes better understanding. You need to use the proper lube with poly, and it makes all the difference. Normal moly lubes are petroleum based, will attack the polyurethane and cause failure as seen in your car.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: vwhelmot on January 05, 2015, 06:02:57 am
All the other bushes are ok. So why just the one if it's a case of wrong lubrication? Don't think it's that that has caused this.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: leec on January 05, 2015, 09:11:06 am
I would also check the beam. I am guessing its a narrowed aftermarket one


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: vwhelmot on January 05, 2015, 10:14:09 am
The beam is the original vw one I narrowed fifteen years ago. The arm seems to be fine but I will check everything .


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: Donny B. on January 05, 2015, 16:37:27 pm
I probably have  50k miles on mine with polyurethane bushings and no issues what so ever.  I greased them liberally with Valvoline grease and have had no problems.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 21:22:06 pm
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,

19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: BeetleBug on January 05, 2015, 21:57:54 pm
You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,

Mr Luppino, is there anything you can do to help us Norwegians with parts from Bugpack?

Best rgs
Karl


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: vwhelmot on January 05, 2015, 22:09:13 pm
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,

19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.
The wrong grease has not caused this bush to simply disappear ? It's gone, the complete sleeve is not there.
The other three are still there so I'm wondering what could have caused this.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 22:19:50 pm
You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,

Mr Luppino, is there anything you can do to help us Norwegians with parts from Bugpack?

Best rgs
Karl



You can try a company called Hot Shop, they are in Norway or here in the US is Pierside Parts, they ship world wide.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 22:22:52 pm
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,

19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.
The wrong grease has not caused this bush to simply disappear ? It's gone, the complete sleeve is not there.
The other three are still there so I'm wondering what could have caused this.


Ok......The only time I have seen bushing fail is when either the wrong grease was used or they were improperly installed. Good luck.


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: andy198712 on January 06, 2015, 22:17:01 pm
Do you still need to pump it through via the nipples regularly with these inserts or is that for the benefit of the needle bearings?


Title: Re: Poly bushes are no good.
Post by: HERB on January 09, 2015, 17:04:47 pm
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,

19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.
The wrong grease has not caused this bush to simply disappear ? It's gone, the complete sleeve is not there.
The other three are still there so I'm wondering what could have caused this.
Is it possible that the outer lip came off and the rest of the bushing "walked" in towards the center of the beam?