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Title: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: SlingShot on July 21, 2008, 03:51:32 am
Hey guys, I picked up these gauges, and I don't know what cars they belong to. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

1
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP1995.jpg)

2
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP1998.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2005.jpg)

3
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2008.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2010.jpg)

4
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2011.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2013.jpg)

5
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2014.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2015.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2017.jpg)


Title: Re: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: stealth67vw on July 21, 2008, 04:11:14 am
Part numbers and date stamps suggest very late type 3 gauges.


Title: Re: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on July 21, 2008, 04:24:01 am
Hey guys, I picked up these gauges, and I don't know what cars they belong to. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

1
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP1995.jpg)

2
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP1998.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2005.jpg)

3
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2008.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2010.jpg)

4
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2011.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2013.jpg)

5
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2014.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2015.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/racebug67/IMGP2017.jpg)
#2,3,4, are 70 and later type 3 #5 is a 411 24 Hour Clock #1 I have never seen one like that but it is for a type 3 maybe european


Title: Re: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: nicolas on July 21, 2008, 14:54:43 pm
2,3,4 are late model type3 the speedo with additional tripmeter
5 is a type4 clock and it can indeed be a european model, more likely a model that was used in scandinavian countries to activate a realais to warm up the engine or activate a defroster. i have a similar one for a early (66-69) model type 3 and it has the same disc in the middle. never looked up how to use it, but it may activate the AC since you guys live in Arizona. should be nice to step in a precooled car.
tripmeter speedo and the type4 are pretty rare in my opinion. 


Title: Re: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: plasticblack on July 22, 2008, 15:23:32 pm
Yes the Type 4 clock has the 'timer set' mech.  This lets you set the Eberpacer (is that spelt right ???) to come on at a pre-set time.

 Usually on a cold winter morning, it comes on 5 minutes before you get in the car and it's warm and toasty.....

  I worked for VW from the 70's and we had many (MANY) problems with this set up..

   Usually the owner would go out to get in his car and find it a burnt out wreck on the driveway....

     People never saw the need to service the stationary petrol heater.. until it was......Er Too Late ;D


Title: Re: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: SlingShot on July 23, 2008, 05:26:32 am
Yes the Type 4 clock has the 'timer set' mech.  This lets you set the Eberpacer (is that spelt right ???) to come on at a pre-set time.

 Usually on a cold winter morning, it comes on 5 minutes before you get in the car and it's warm and toasty.....

  I worked for VW from the 70's and we had many (MANY) problems with this set up..

   Usually the owner would go out to get in his car and find it a burnt out wreck on the driveway....

     People never saw the need to service the stationary petrol heater.. until it was......Er Too Late ;D

Cool! Sounds like a cool idea, maybe a little ahead of it's time. Almost sounds like it would make a good timer for a bomb.  :D

Even though these are late model  gauges, are they worth much of anything?


Title: Re: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: nicolas on July 23, 2008, 08:01:41 am
Yes the Type 4 clock has the 'timer set' mech.  This lets you set the Eberpacer (is that spelt right ???) to come on at a pre-set time.

 Usually on a cold winter morning, it comes on 5 minutes before you get in the car and it's warm and toasty.....

  I worked for VW from the 70's and we had many (MANY) problems with this set up..

   Usually the owner would go out to get in his car and find it a burnt out wreck on the driveway....

     People never saw the need to service the stationary petrol heater.. until it was......Er Too Late ;D

Cool! Sounds like a cool idea, maybe a little ahead of it's time. Almost sounds like it would make a good timer for a bomb.  :D

Even though these are late model  gauges, are they worth much of anything?

trip meters are always wanted and the timer is rare, but put it on the samba and there are surely people looking for those to buy. i bought my early timer for 100 euros... haven't seen many afterwards and i have only seen two late models like yours afterwards.
tripmeters are more common, but more wanted as well, so i guess it will go for the same price



Title: Re: Help me ID these Gauges Please.
Post by: plasticblack on July 23, 2008, 08:14:46 am
These Gauges only fit the Type 4 and later '72 on Karmann Ghias.

 These 'Stationary Petrol Heater' was only really an attractive option to new buyers in consistantly cold regions. Like Scandinavia, Rockies etc.

Lots of Canadian Campers have the additional petrol heaters for this reason.

 I've had and sold several of these gauges over the years, but their appeal has only ever been limited. they are a less common sight these days at swapmeets.

It's a shame that these gauges don't fit beetles, because they are really cool looking..(anyone fancy trying to fit one??)

 The 'Pre-Heating System' was very modern (remember this is the early 70's) and ahead of it's time. The additional cost for the new car buyer was resonably high in some markets and the option was never hugely popular.

The electrical system that controls this whole shabang certainly comes under the 'Black Arts' and nowadays is probably known only to Secret Societies and Freemasons :D :D