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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2008, 01:55:17 am »

yes gears and motor should ideally match

I still say use stock rocker arms, Lee.

Cool thanks dude  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2008, 03:27:59 am »

Empi 1.4s and a fk87.
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2008, 02:34:45 am »

Lee I would use a W-140 Cam with stock Rockers on Berg Shafts this cam puls real hard and Idles Great and is smooth all the way threw the power range
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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2008, 19:03:38 pm »

I think you could use a 125 / 130 / 140 because your buggy is lighter then a sedan.  Do the Berg shafts like Shubee says and some stock rockers like Jim recommended.  I like OEM 911 Porsche valve screws (the underside of the rocker has to be clearanced a bit on a bench grinder for the swivel to move fully).  I had a look in Berg's old Technical Article book and here's what he had to say about 1.25:1 rockers on cams designed for 1.1:1 for what it's worth....
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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2008, 19:42:30 pm »

I think you could use a 125 / 130 / 140 because your buggy is lighter then a sedan.  Do the Berg shafts like Shubee says and some stock rockers like Jim recommended.  I like OEM 911 Porsche valve screws (the underside of the rocker has to be clearanced a bit on a bench grinder for the swivel to move fully).  I had a look in Berg's old Technical Article book and here's what he had to say about 1.25:1 rockers on cams designed for 1.1:1 for what it's worth....

Thanks Buddy but this lil monster is going in PROJECT 66  Wink Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2008, 00:01:19 am »

I think you could use a 125 / 130 / 140 because your buggy is lighter then a sedan.  Do the Berg shafts like Shubee says and some stock rockers like Jim recommended.  I like OEM 911 Porsche valve screws (the underside of the rocker has to be clearanced a bit on a bench grinder for the swivel to move fully).  I had a look in Berg's old Technical Article book and here's what he had to say about 1.25:1 rockers on cams designed for 1.1:1 for what it's worth....

Thanks Buddy but this lil monster is going in PROJECT 66  Wink Smiley

Hmmmmm, in that case, use a VX93 with 1.8:2 rockers on rifle drilled shafts and forget all that other hogwash I posted Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2008, 21:10:09 pm »

Talking about old stuff, take an old catalogue.  Wink


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« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2008, 21:18:26 pm »

neat old info there... interesting jetting on DDS 48IDAs... 40mm venturi, 155m x 155a jets. I ran my car that way for a while last year (before I upped to 42mm)
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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2008, 21:22:24 pm »

neat old info there... interesting jetting on DDS 48IDAs... 40mm venturi, 155m x 155a jets. I ran my car that way for a while last year (before I upped to 42mm)

this is what the book say about IDA use on the road.

There is lot's of interesting info how about they built engines back in the days. Check the last scan with the Don Burn drag setup.

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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2008, 21:43:11 pm »

Hey Thanks JF that is some seriously cool information - see those guys really knew how to get HP  Grin
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« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2008, 21:49:54 pm »

1700cc making nearly 180hp  Shocked
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« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2008, 21:55:47 pm »

I've found all this info in a small book call "all engine 1200cc to 2300cc". From 1977.  Wink

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« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2008, 21:56:58 pm »

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« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2008, 21:58:12 pm »

Talking about old stuff, take an old catalogue.  Wink




hey j-f which catalog is that? I really dig old specs like that. Thanks for posting.
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« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2008, 22:00:27 pm »

Talking about old stuff, take an old catalogue.  Wink




hey j-f which catalog is that? I really dig old specs like that. Thanks for posting.

sorry, you posted the title while i was typing single fingered.
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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2008, 22:01:35 pm »

Talking about old stuff, take an old catalogue.  Wink




hey j-f which catalog is that? I really dig old specs like that. Thanks for posting.

sorry, you posted the title while i was typing single fingered.

I make another post with the scan I did. Wink

 
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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2008, 22:04:07 pm »

it's a catalog from motion minicar i just want to go on david mayes website and google don't found him Huh i'm sure there that catalog on dave's site
 the web site is delete ??
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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2008, 22:13:23 pm »

it's a catalog from motion minicar i just want to go on david mayes website and google don't found him Huh i'm sure there that catalog on dave's site
 the web site is delete ??


Since he passed away a few months ago I guess someone took the site down Cry
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« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2008, 22:20:57 pm »

it's a catalog from motion minicar i just want to go on david mayes website and google don't found him Huh i'm sure there that catalog on dave's site
 the web site is delete ??


I wondered who edited this catalogue  Smiley. Thanks Fab.  Wink
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« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2008, 22:23:36 pm »

it's a catalog from motion minicar i just want to go on david mayes website and google don't found him Huh i'm sure there that catalog on dave's site
 the web site is delete ??


Since he passed away a few months ago I guess someone took the site down Cry

 Cry Cry Cry I wonder who will be making an offer on his collection  Shocked Undecided
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« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2008, 00:00:41 am »

it's a catalog from motion minicar i just want to go on david mayes website and google don't found him Huh i'm sure there that catalog on dave's site
 the web site is delete ??


Since he passed away a few months ago I guess someone took the site down Cry

 Cry Cry Cry I wonder who will be making an offer on his collection  Shocked Undecided

It's sick to think of such a thing, but I can't say that I'm not guilty of it. Embarrassed But it matters not to me as I bearly have a pot to piss in right now! He had a ton of cool parts, it would be good to see the sale and proceeds go to his family at least.
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« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2008, 01:26:08 am »

it's a catalog from motion minicar i just want to go on david mayes website and google don't found him Huh i'm sure there that catalog on dave's site
 the web site is delete ??


Since he passed away a few months ago I guess someone took the site down Cry

 Cry Cry Cry I wonder who will be making an offer on his collection  Shocked Undecided

It's sick to think of such a thing, but I can't say that I'm not guilty of it. Embarrassed But it matters not to me as I bearly have a pot to piss in right now! He had a ton of cool parts, it would be good to see the sale and proceeds go to his family at least.

Hey don't get me wrong dude its just something someone mentioned to me the other day - it shocked me a little too  Embarrassed Smiley

Anyway back to CAMS Wink

One thing I did want to bring up was the whole ratio rocker issue (I know Jim Wink) Any thoughts people  Huh
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« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2008, 19:50:22 pm »

Another old shool setup.  Wink

The cam seems to be something as a w120. And it runs 14sec  Shocked That should be a nice engine.

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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2010, 18:21:43 pm »

Lee, if you're still interested, I may be able to get you a lead on Isky cams for Volkswagen.
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« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2010, 19:27:03 pm »

what about lil woper?
i think it turns some rpm Smiley

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« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2010, 21:35:25 pm »

Very cool seeing those scanned articles. Interesting hp figures qouted though...  185 hp on a 40 mm Weber with 32mm vents? And over 200 hp on a 39mm inlet valve! Those were the days! Smiley
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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2010, 23:17:21 pm »

well it looks like Gary H has an original Engle 130 (with lifters + cam gear) for me, he thought it would probably be best for a "Street motor"   Grin
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« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2010, 07:15:14 am »

K-8 and i don't know why, but bergs engine was same CC and that cam. 12,?? on the strip.
I'm thinking that K-8 was the first generation of the K-8, I believe had more dur., not sure on lift.
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