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Title: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: louisb on September 05, 2009, 15:18:26 pm
So I am sitting here installing my HiPacs (Weber Windows) from Hookeys and it got me to thinking. Why couldn't you design a cover that included a backward facing air scoop to let more air into the engine compartment for feeding those big engines and cooling. Then the Weber windows would serve two purposes. When you need to tune you just unbolt them, then when you bolt them back on they act as air scoops. You could include some sort of screen to keep large objects out and if they were backward facing it should keep dirt and water out. Just a thought.

--louis


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: Bruce on September 05, 2009, 16:31:23 pm
I wouldn't do it.  It will let a LOT of dirt into the engine area.  Really a bad idea if you run IDAs with no air filters.


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: danny gabbard on September 05, 2009, 17:19:32 pm
Hi louis, Its hard to see but the stainless screen I used on bill rogers car is directional so the air gets pushed into engine bay. Well on paper, Lets hope it works


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: Donny B. on September 05, 2009, 18:01:53 pm
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I wouldn't do it.  It will let a LOT of dirt into the engine area.  Really a bad idea if you run IDAs with no air filters.

I have to agree.  I have weber windows on my car, but the doors seal with weather strip and do a pretty good job.  I still get crap in through the little crevices though.  It can make a real mess.


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: louisb on September 05, 2009, 20:04:55 pm
Hi louis, Its hard to see but the stainless screen I used on bill rogers car is directional so the air gets pushed into engine bay. Well on paper, Lets hope it works

That looks pretty nice Danny. I tried to PM you about ordering a set as I seem to remember you were making them now but you never replied. Here are the one's from Hooky's:

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/593974.jpg)

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/593976.jpg)

There are a few more pic sin my build thread down towards the bottom:

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,5840.120.html


I would think you would have to use some sort of air filter though that may restrict air flow to the point of making the scoops useless. But a lot of modern cars drw air from the front wheel wells now. It was just a thought I had anyway.

Thanks,

--louiss


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: danny gabbard on September 05, 2009, 21:08:51 pm
Hey louis sorry I did not get back with you, Just got the innernet hooked up at the shop. I still havent really put much time into makeing them a product. I had to do something with bills car and thats what I came up with.


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: vwxtc4free on September 07, 2009, 23:25:47 pm
Those both look nice!    How about the filter media tha is used in the new  IDA filters.     Anyone have an idea what is used and if some could be sourced ? 


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: TexasTom on September 08, 2009, 00:32:26 am
Both of those setups look nicely done, though I'm not a fan of the windows myself.
Must be the SM side of me ... but I prefer the clean look of a full metal engine bay.

Perhaps Deano will chime in ... I believe he incorporated filters into the windows on his build; cleanable, of course ... very clean. ;)


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: louisb on September 08, 2009, 00:39:05 am
I thought Deano put in Air scoops.

--louis


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: TexasTom on September 08, 2009, 01:17:36 am
He has both!
But, he would tell it best.


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: deano on September 08, 2009, 01:52:21 am
My "windows" are covered with K&N power lid filters used on motorcycles (known as Power Lids). They are the thinnest filters I could find, and for my deal, they act as a lid/cover and air intake. They are held in place with a bracket lip top and bottom, come off with two 10/32 button head screws, so you can replace the spark plugs or fiddle with the carbs. I was going with the stainless screen idea, until I found these filters in their catalog.

And yes, I am also using NACA ducts as scoops as well, but they are located up top (sorta like the old Empi scoop idea).

Oh, and by the way, on some models, the taillight wires are right in the way (normally hidden behind the tar boards), so I relocated them so they are now hidden and away from these windows.


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: louisb on September 08, 2009, 01:56:46 am
My "windows" are covered with K&N power lid filters used on motorcycles. They are the thinnest filters I could find, and for my deal, they act as a lid/cover and air intake. They are held in place with a bracket lip top and bottom, come off with two 10/32 button head screw, so you can replace the spark plugs or fiddle with the carbs. I was going with the stainless screen idea, until I found these filters in their catalog.

And yes, I am also using NACA ducts as scoops as well, but they are located up top (sorta like the old Empi scoop idea).

Oh, and by the way, on some models, the taillight wires are right in the way (normally hidden behind the tar boards), so I relocated them so they are now hidden and away from these windows.

Sounds cool. As for the taillight wires, I had that problem too. I had to shrink out the little hump so the cover would sit flat.

--louis


Title: Re: Weber windows and air intake
Post by: lackneramanda on May 19, 2011, 10:13:39 am
My "windows" are covered with K&N power lid filters used on motorcycles (known as Power Lids). They are the thinnest filters I could find, and for my deal, they act as a lid/cover and air intake (http://www.carparts.com/Spectra-Premium-Air-Intake-and-Fuel-Systems/4199999966-600021922.car). They are held in place with a bracket lip top and bottom, come off with two 10/32 button head screws, so you can replace the spark plugs or fiddle with the carbs. I was going with the stainless screen idea, until I found these filters in their catalog.

And yes, I am also using NACA ducts as scoops as well, but they are located up top (sorta like the old Empi scoop idea).

Oh, and by the way, on some models, the taillight wires are right in the way (normally hidden behind the tar boards), so I relocated them so they are now hidden and away from these windows.


Ok.. I hope I'm not having a senior moment again.. like that silly heater intake hose.. Its my first Series III- enough of my excuses  .

I noticed the air intake elbow from the air filter doesn't have a good connection to the carburetor. I looked up a intake adapter but noticed I have a Weber carburetor 34 ICH *!?X?. I do have the intake adaptor ring. The issue is the flexible hose that attaches the ring to the intake elbow. The whole connection seems loose- too lose. If I hit a bump hard it would fall off- and this truck isn't known for its smooth ride.. I called paddock, etc and they had no suggestions for getting an intake adaptor. I don't want to replace the carb as the engine does run quite well.
Anyone else got a 34 ICH Weber carburetor? Where can I find a flexible connection from the intake elbow to the top of the carb?