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Title: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 10, 2009, 18:19:38 pm
Well i said to myself i wouldnt start a thread for my latest purchase but to keep me going it helps as a porject planner i feel. I have tried to complete lots of projects from Fiat 600s to 54 ovals then to Rx7 powerd skodas ( i know i know what the hell ) So now i am a little older 23 so i hope with a good bunch of mates and some hard effort i can get this 67 done.

Story so far, I have had a motor being built by Jeff Denham but needed a dub to take it, so an advert went up Bug wanted with out motor. Had a few really good cars posted over to me but one quiet PM from the then current owner of Jason McCreery's.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee208/Stootheworm/mccreery1.jpg)

Long story short deal was struck for the whole car with the engine, but due to going away for some time over christmas the motor had to find a new home, which it did with a fellow club member.

So she was rebuilt by Paintbox 15 years ago so there is some sign of age, but no real rot just a bit of paint flake.  The inner arches are very good and fresh paint is
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/cranbug/45.jpg)


Basic plan
Tidy body work up after christmas , replace tired wings with Day mouldings
Fit short race axles and tubes
Fit Flat 4 6.5 inch BRMS with some custom 13" DDS style rims up front ( Taylor Machine made )
Fit the new motor with all the plumbing.

Cogbox built box which will have to do for now:
Ratio's - 4:125 ring and pinion

-         1st 3.78

-         2nd 2.06

-         3rd 1.26

-         4th 0.93

Later 3rd and 4th welded gears

Super diff

Heavy duty side plate

Steel shift forks


Anyway you get the idea for now so i will just update it over the winter and the plan is to have her rolling and running for vworld if my budget allows in paint.

Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 10, 2009, 18:42:00 pm
Here is the wheel setup:

The 13"s need a really good polish to get rid of machine marks etc, but for an hour its not tooo bad :)
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/54oval/Picture006Medium.jpg)


And picked this up at action to go with my speedwell steering wheel £20 , the rev limit arm needs a repair but its not a biggy.
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/54oval/Picture007Small-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Diederick/DVK on September 10, 2009, 19:17:14 pm
cool car dude! you didn't need to change much one this one, i'm sure it will turn out great!
check pm.


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: jick on September 10, 2009, 19:38:49 pm
cool car Rob, i like your wheel plans....how about colour coding the headlamp rims when you re-do it as well?


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Black Sheep on September 10, 2009, 19:43:54 pm
Glad to see you've found a car Rob , keep us posted of your progress  :)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Sam K on September 11, 2009, 01:27:21 am
That's a sharp looking car! Is it the same one that had two piece 5 spokes and was featured in Volksworld a few years back?


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Fastbrit on September 11, 2009, 05:45:19 am
I enquired about this car about five years ago when Jason was first selling it. It is a great starting point for a nicely done Looker. Good luck with the project!


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: jamiep_jamiep on September 11, 2009, 08:32:10 am
Nice car Rob.


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 11, 2009, 09:56:14 am
:) I am very happy with it, although the paint cost might be rather alot.

What do you guys think ! Loose the pop outs? I think it would look so smouth without them.

Not sure if this car ever got a feature but i would love to get whens shes complete ;)
Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Diederick/DVK on September 11, 2009, 09:59:44 am
lose the popouts, or black out the trim. it will looks lots smoother. personally, i only like popouts with cars that run trim. right now they draw too much attention. just MHO ;)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 11, 2009, 10:06:26 am
lose the popouts, or black out the trim. it will looks lots smoother. personally, i only like popouts with cars that run trim. right now they draw too much attention. just MHO ;)

Cool going to install the new rubber this sat, and have the holes welded up and paint later on :)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Neil Davies on September 11, 2009, 10:24:38 am
:) I am very happy with it, although the paint cost might be rather alot.

What do you guys think ! Loose the pop outs? I think it would look so smouth without them.

Not sure if this car ever got a feature but i would love to get whens shes complete ;)
Rob

As far as I remember Rob, it was in Volksworld in the late 1990's - '98ish I think?

It's very similar to my brother's '67! I personally like the pop-outs and one piece windows, but maybe black would look good on the frames. Not sure about the 13's up fr4ont though, at least, not with the BRMs on the back. Maybe a set of Douglas wheels on the back?


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Diederick/DVK on September 11, 2009, 10:42:27 am
fabs should post the pic of a white-ish american '67 that ran 13" DDS wheels. i forgot whose it was and i'm not at my own pc at the moment, but it will give you an idea of what it looks like.


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 11, 2009, 11:11:12 am
:) I am very happy with it, although the paint cost might be rather alot.

What do you guys think ! Loose the pop outs? I think it would look so smouth without them.

Not sure if this car ever got a feature but i would love to get whens shes complete ;)
Rob

As far as I remember Rob, it was in Volksworld in the late 1990's - '98ish I think?

It's very similar to my brother's '67! I personally like the pop-outs and one piece windows, but maybe black would look good on the frames. Not sure about the 13's up fr4ont though, at least, not with the BRMs on the back. Maybe a set of Douglas wheels on the back?

but painting the frame? Can you remove the rubber then with out tearing it..

Yeah the 13s i have really grown to like and since i cant find a set of older flat 4 BRMS in Matt black they will stay untill a front pair come up for sale. Grown to like the idea of the sorta gasser setup.

Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Trond Dahl on September 11, 2009, 14:20:20 pm
Very nice car Rob, congratulations :-)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: speedwell on September 11, 2009, 14:33:39 pm
fabs should post the pic of a white-ish american '67 that ran 13" DDS wheels. i forgot whose it was and i'm not at my own pc at the moment, but it will give you an idea of what it looks like.
yes it's  john plow , the car was featured in vw tech  with dave (aka cornpanzer), chuck fryer ,and troy palmer


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: speedwell on September 11, 2009, 14:38:15 pm
and here's ther report from super vw   ;)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: speedwell on September 11, 2009, 14:38:59 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: speedwell on September 11, 2009, 15:03:07 pm
in volksworld it was the feb 97 issue
 ;)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Black Sheep on September 11, 2009, 15:04:22 pm
:) I am very happy with it, although the paint cost might be rather alot.

What do you guys think ! Loose the pop outs? I think it would look so smouth without them.

Not sure if this car ever got a feature but i would love to get whens shes complete ;)
Rob

Yeah loose the pop outs and put it on a diet  ;) You can sell them easy to some resto freak who likes shiny bits  :)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: speedwell on September 11, 2009, 15:09:01 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Lee.C on September 11, 2009, 15:18:52 pm
Funny I was reading that feature just the day  :)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 11, 2009, 17:16:00 pm
wow wow wow , i really didnt know that it had EMPI 5s ...they look really good !!!

Need to find a copy of that mag!

Cheers guys will have an update and some current photos of the car this weekend. My Mrs is working so i get to play !!


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 11, 2009, 17:23:32 pm
wow wow wow , i really didnt know that it had EMPI 5s ...they look really good !!!

Need to find a copy of that mag!

Cheers guys will have an update and some current photos of the car this weekend. My Mrs is working so i get to play !!

Berg or copper hurst shifter ?

The good thing about this car over the years it has had money put into it so i can change the new parts of more period parts.

Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: speedwell on September 11, 2009, 17:27:03 pm
3 mail sent


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: deanosvws on September 11, 2009, 22:10:23 pm
hi rob if you do want to change the popouts i would be interested, also ive got that mag somewhere i will have a butchers and see if i can find it. cheers dean


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 12, 2009, 11:36:24 am
Cheers Dean will drop you a line , Just pick up the phone ;)

Fabs your a Cal look super Hero :)

Picked up the Complete 1997 set gots lots of simple ideas to play with


Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: deanosvws on September 12, 2009, 23:18:14 pm
sorry mate been down at a customers today, not much phone service. cheers dean


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 13, 2009, 20:40:03 pm
ok the rear axle setup anybody able to tell me is it the 67 only short or long ?

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/54oval/IMG_3766.jpg)

Thank you
Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Lee.C on September 13, 2009, 21:25:50 pm
ok the rear axle setup anybody able to tell me is it the 67 only short or long ?

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/54oval/IMG_3766.jpg)

Thank you
Rob

Looks like a later "long" one to me  :-\ :)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 13, 2009, 21:56:16 pm
rollox lol looks like more money to spend :)

And for the motor pervs, this is the parts for the longblock being built by Jeff D
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/54oval/indexphp.jpg)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Diederick/DVK on September 14, 2009, 12:05:45 pm
that pulley doesn't reall look like a period part  ;)
90mm flanged? what kind of engine are you planning on having built? ;D


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 14, 2009, 14:31:54 pm
Plan is for Jeffs 4" bore motor, sometime over christmas i hope so should make for the best present so far in my 23 years.

Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 15, 2009, 03:04:25 am
Yup, looks like a long axle to me.


That motor looks like it will be fun! :o


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 15, 2009, 18:35:01 pm
Just getting the front done so i can get it rolling again the fronts fit well with studds so will order the tyres this friday 155 65 13


(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/54oval/IMG_4645.jpg)

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/54oval/IMG_4646.jpg)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Lee.C on September 15, 2009, 18:46:42 pm
cool :)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 15, 2009, 19:33:23 pm
Ok bit of advise needed from yal peeps :)

Fronts i have sorted just got to get some Erco style wheel bolt spacers made.

But the rears the flat four BRMS the M12 Studd is way to small for the BRM it cleary wants an M14 studd or bolt? do they all come that way and the nut just centres it and keeps it in line?

Thank you
Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: benssp on September 15, 2009, 19:55:43 pm
Flat 4 wheels take tapered bolts so they will work with 12mm and 14mm bolts ;D


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 15, 2009, 21:33:00 pm
Cheers Ben i will order them tommorow :)

Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: type3 on September 24, 2009, 10:32:28 am
Looking good.   ;D  Are you sure about the roller skate front wheels?   ;D


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: Diederick/DVK on September 24, 2009, 10:40:31 am
i like the tiny front wheels, but 155/65/13. you sure you want such a tiny tyre as well?
i'd figured 155/80 to be the minimum. but we'll see, good luck  ;)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 24, 2009, 14:24:50 pm
Looking good.   ;D  Are you sure about the roller skate front wheels?   ;D

i like the tiny front wheels, but 155/65/13. you sure you want such a tiny tyre as well?
i'd figured 155/80 to be the minimum. but we'll see, good luck  ;)

Going to take the rims onces i have polished them up down to the tyre place and see what they have, an 80 might be a better bet.


Little update

orderd the short tubes and bearing housing + the race axles. Deano from Deano's VW will be helping with the work + doing all the pipe work over christmas which will be a wonderful present to myself :)

Rob


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: type3 on September 24, 2009, 14:29:53 pm
...an 80 might be a better bet.

Cool, otherwise the valance will be on the deck!   :)


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on September 24, 2009, 14:31:13 pm
Oi you get back to work !! Your oval wont weld its self up !

PS
ill pop over to grab the tool...

PPS
GET YOUR CAR UP ON HERE ..your work is top notch


Title: Re: Last chance Bob 67
Post by: type3 on September 24, 2009, 14:45:25 pm
Cool, see you later.   :)

p.s. You can start the thread.  ;D