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Cal-look/High Performance => Cal-look => Topic started by: Lids on November 17, 2009, 16:57:33 pm



Title: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Lids on November 17, 2009, 16:57:33 pm
Sat in school eating pizza waiitng for year 11 parents evening, and thought is a roof chop cal-look?

I could go through lots of cars that have been chopped and would meet all the other requirements of cal look, but is it really cal-look.  Or is it more custom/hot rod?

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Neil Davies on November 17, 2009, 17:07:32 pm
Definately. Cal Look was influenced by the dragstrip, so why not? Keith Goss was influenced by Tar Babe for his car, it's just so much work to do (correctly!) that it didn't really become that common.

Are you thinking of chopping your car then Lids?!


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: benssp on November 17, 2009, 17:17:11 pm
Are you thinking of chopping your car then Lids?!

he realised it's nearly ready for the road so needs to delay it some more ;D

Tar Babe, Goss Car....nuff said ;D


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Dave Rosique on November 17, 2009, 17:20:57 pm
Yes!
(Although some looked better than others ;))

Quote from 70's Cal-Look rule book, section 3, paragraph 1, article 7: Chop tops are bitchin' man.

~DR.


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: deano on November 17, 2009, 17:21:09 pm
California Look street cars <----------> VW gassers of the era


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Worm on November 17, 2009, 17:48:05 pm
For sale CHEAP!  Just found this

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/1451405133.html


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on November 17, 2009, 18:08:30 pm
If it's got the rest of the look to go with it, then absolutely!


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: ST DRAGN on November 17, 2009, 18:52:14 pm
Yes!
(Although some looked better than others ;))

Quote from 70's Cal-Look rule book, section 3, paragraph 1, article 7: Chop tops are bitchin' man.

~DR.



That is what a true cal-look chop top should look like.  I remember see that car at OCIR,  just perfect with the magnesium wheels, metallic color and chop combo..( bad ass ).. Just wonder why he needed so many blinkers. bullets and semaphores?


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Black Sheep on November 17, 2009, 19:43:45 pm
Mike wash your mouth out with soap and water and don't bring those sort of thoughts on here ever again  >:( ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: delux67 on November 17, 2009, 20:01:59 pm
I read the question about whether or not Chop Tops are Cal Looks. Since the early Chops were done by Cal Look guys the answer is yes, of course. I saw a reference to Tar Babe. Not sure whether it is common knowledge but the original Tar Babe was put together and drivin by Greg Aronson (the A in FAT) of FAT Performance. Just an FYI in case it's not mentioned somewhere.


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Sarge on November 17, 2009, 20:53:41 pm

"Yes!... although some looked better than others ;)"

~DR.


You got that "Wright"... Dave's car sure looked awesome.  What ever became of him and that car?


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Martin Greaves on November 17, 2009, 21:03:45 pm
Are you thinking of chopping your car then Lids?!

he realised it's nearly ready for the road so needs to delay it some more ;D


Ben has got it in one again. ;D


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Dave Rosique on November 17, 2009, 21:16:42 pm

"Yes!... although some looked better than others ;)"

~DR.


You got that "Wright"... Dave's car sure looked awesome.  What ever became of him and that car?

 Sarge,

Shortly after it was finished and showed a time or two the car was sold and went back east... I really wish it would turn up.
I'm sure you know I have a real soft spot for that car... A lot of blood, sweat and beers went in to building it ;)

I've contacted Dave Wright, but he's out of the VW / car scene these days... too bad, he could tell some stories...

~Dave


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 17, 2009, 21:33:09 pm
one for you dave  ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Dave Rosique on November 17, 2009, 21:43:16 pm

Perfect timing Fabs ;)

Thanks!



Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Black Sheep on November 17, 2009, 22:07:07 pm
For sale CHEAP!  Just found this

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/1451405133.html

Wow for $500 that sure save's a lot of work , don't look too bad either  8)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: deano on November 18, 2009, 05:47:10 am
Yes!
(Although some looked better than others ;))

Quote from 70's Cal-Look rule book, section 3, paragraph 1, article 7: Chop tops are bitchin' man.

~DR.

I remember shooting that car. In front of some restaurant near Fairview Blvd, in Santa Ana-ish....


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Lids on November 18, 2009, 07:37:29 am
If a roof chop is cal-look, which years are better suited?  And are certain chops not allowed?  If its too obvious and not subtle is it really cal-look?


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Rennsurfer on November 18, 2009, 07:45:37 am
If a roof chop is cal-look, which years are better suited?  And are certain chops not allowed?  If its too obvious and not subtle is it really cal-look?

Long as you use factory one off Type 3 or 4 Notchback convertibles, you're good to go.


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on November 18, 2009, 09:20:33 am
Early model chops seem to be more popular than later models. But it's your call as to what you like!
I personally don't like the wedge chops, meaning chopped in front and not so much in the back. I can remember a chop at Bug In OCIR of a Hawaiin owner who chopped his bug and filled in the rear quarter windows. In place he added a long smoked verticle piece of plexiglass.  Made for a different look.

IMO I feel that a car with a long wheelbase or cabin space,doesn't look good chopped. It just seems out of porportion to me. That's why I think the coolest cars to chop are Fiats or Ghias.


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Neil Davies on November 18, 2009, 09:54:21 am
Generally I think that '58-'64 cars look best chopped, although the Anderson Bros first chop top and Dave Wrights brown oval above look really good too. Even though my race car was a big window car ('66), and was wedge-chopped (although not too much, I think I got away with it because of the lack of gutters and rounded door tops. it was only 2 3/4 inches out of the B pillars - enough to look different but not obviously chopped like Tar Babe.

(http://muchos.co.uk/members/neil hab2/Headstraight - bigbang03.jpg)

Mike wash your mouth out with soap and water and don't bring those sort of thoughts on here ever again  >:( ;)

Should I chop the '51? ;) I need to replace a section of the roof where something fell on it, just above the windscreen...

Final thing (for now!) - rear side window shape is important. I prefer the slightly sharper corners on Tar Babe compared to those on the Goss car.


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Russell on November 18, 2009, 10:07:02 am
I dont like chops, never really fancied getting my big head in there......


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Neil Davies on November 18, 2009, 11:41:53 am
I dont like chops, never really fancied getting my big head in there......

Yet you own more than anyone else! ;) ;D Is that why you get KS to drive? :o :-* :D


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Dave Rosique on November 18, 2009, 15:49:15 pm
Yes!
(Although some looked better than others ;))

Quote from 70's Cal-Look rule book, section 3, paragraph 1, article 7: Chop tops are bitchin' man.

~DR.

I remember shooting that car. In front of some restaurant near Harbor Blvd, in Santa Ana-ish....

Awesome job Deano (as usual ;))
Everybody has an all time favorite car, that one is mine.

~DR.


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: team97 on November 18, 2009, 17:13:34 pm

"Yes!... although some looked better than others ;)"

~DR.


You got that "Wright"... Dave's car sure looked awesome.  What ever became of him and that car?

 Sarge,

Shortly after it was finished and showed a time or two the car was sold and went back east... I really wish it would turn up.
I'm sure you know I have a real soft spot for that car... A lot of blood, sweat and beers went in to building it ;)

I've contacted Dave Wright, but he's out of the VW / car scene these days... too bad, he could tell some stories...

~Dave

There is an early black chop top that shows up at Cars and Coffee in Irvine now and then, it has Flat 4 BRM's but it looks almost exactly like the Dave Wright chop. It even has the old aluminum offset fan shroud. I know everybody and their cousin had those in the early days but I wonder if it is the same car?


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 18, 2009, 17:16:07 pm
 ;) some cal look chop top  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 18, 2009, 17:16:54 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 18, 2009, 17:17:39 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 18, 2009, 17:19:09 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 18, 2009, 17:20:11 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 18, 2009, 17:21:21 pm
some late model  ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: speedwell on November 18, 2009, 17:22:28 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Lids on November 18, 2009, 18:21:56 pm
Fabs i now disagree, louvers and flames are custom not cal-look (Ducks for cover)


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Dave Rosique on November 18, 2009, 19:11:26 pm


Whew!! There's a fugly car or two in that bunch!!  Uh... "thanks" Fabs...

Like I said... "Some look better than others"  8)

(Note to Worm: Waiting on your input on the models... you know, face like a foot, things like that.)

~ ;D


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: jhicken on November 19, 2009, 04:43:56 am
Back in the day Mike Martinez's car was the shit. Alot of folks aspired to have a car like that. I always considered it the ultimate Cal-Look.

(http://www.cal-look.pl/callook/historia/california%20look%20artyku%B31/mike%20martinez%20chop1.jpg)

-jeffrey


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on November 19, 2009, 05:45:39 am
Yep, me too!


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Lids on November 19, 2009, 07:10:23 am
i agree about the Mike Martinez's ca, there's something about the lines of the chop that work, especially compared to some of those posted.


Title: Re: Is a roof chop really cal-look?
Post by: Rennsurfer on November 19, 2009, 08:13:34 am
Martinez's black chop... best one EVER. The red one that was in D.K.K. was second. His name was Kevin... forgot his last name.