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Title: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Rocket Ron on November 19, 2009, 21:00:54 pm
sat in the van in traffic today and my mind was elsewhere ( not unusual   ::) ) and was thinking about a TV show I saw last night about the world record attempt by a steam powered car.

They had shipped the car out to the us and the temperature was way to hot for the car to run.

As a solution they packed the car with dry ice to cool it down to be able to make a run.

It got me thinking about cooling the fuel not just the charge ( ie intercooler) in an effort to get a denser charge on a turbo engine.

Has it been done or am I way off track here as usual     


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: mr horsepower on November 19, 2009, 21:12:29 pm
then it needs more time to vapor and  it will cause detonation .
Gr henri


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Rick Sadler on November 19, 2009, 21:31:19 pm
Like this?

http://spideraccessories.stores.yahoo.net/coolcan.html


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Jim Ratto on November 19, 2009, 22:01:28 pm
I was daydreaming on my way home about a new front yard at my place, eating po' boy sandwiches on the waterfront in New Orleans and the possibilities of an "active combustion chamber"
how awesome would that be?


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: ESH on November 19, 2009, 22:32:25 pm
What about warming it with a spark plug.  :)


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Rocket Ron on November 19, 2009, 22:43:03 pm
Like this?

http://spideraccessories.stores.yahoo.net/coolcan.html

yep sort of like that  ;)


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Martin on November 19, 2009, 23:59:06 pm
wopers got one, tried it with and with out, didnt make the car go any faster, but i did have some ice left over for the Gin & Tonic later in the evening......bonus!


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: kingsburgphil on November 20, 2009, 03:57:24 am

 Turbocharged aircraft engines work just fine at temps below freezing. (Think WWII B-17's)  ;)


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: delroyb on November 20, 2009, 11:43:21 am
Fuel temp makes a lot of difference. That is why in F1 there is a minimum temp that the fuel can be stored at, to prevent people getting silly with chilling it and getting an unfair advantage. Cooler fuel is denser, thus has a higher energy density/l. Dont think it would be practical to cool it in the car though.


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: BeetleBug on November 20, 2009, 12:23:40 pm
Martin, it looks like you have found a way to cool your fuel down with your ice/fuel tank;


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Martin on November 21, 2009, 11:51:38 am
thats actually the beer cooler ;)



Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Rocket Ron on November 21, 2009, 12:04:15 pm
 Thats one exspensive beer cooler  :D :D :D


Ps Its my Birthday today Martin, my birthday present ready yet ?


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: richie on December 02, 2009, 18:52:28 pm
sat in the van in traffic today and my mind was elsewhere ( not unusual   ::) ) and was thinking about a TV show I saw last night about the world record attempt by a steam powered car.

They had shipped the car out to the us and the temperature was way to hot for the car to run.

As a solution they packed the car with dry ice to cool it down to be able to make a run.

It got me thinking about cooling the fuel not just the charge ( ie intercooler) in an effort to get a denser charge on a turbo engine.

Has it been done or am I way off track here as usual     

It has to help,but most sanctioning bodies make it illegal :o,particularly in drag racing,if its worth the effort in what we are trying to achieve,well theres only one way you are going to find out Ron,try it :)


cheers richie,uk 


Title: Re: charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??
Post by: Rocket Ron on December 02, 2009, 21:10:16 pm
may be interesting to see the difference it would make to a run

we'll have too see, got to sort out a few other things first   ::) :-[