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Title: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on April 02, 2010, 13:32:24 pm For all of you that are mechanically inclined.....
Penetrating Oils Compared Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment. Penetrating oil ..... Average load None ..................... 516 pounds WD-40 .................. 238 pounds PB Blaster ..............214 pounds Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds ATF-Acetone mix... 53 pounds The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Diederick/DVK on April 02, 2010, 14:44:26 pm gary, did they spray the mix on or used drops?
just wondering how you could put these chemicals in a spray can. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: . on April 02, 2010, 14:58:36 pm I use one of these, you fill it with the chemicals of your choice, then pressurize it with an airhose.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Diederick/DVK on April 02, 2010, 16:09:12 pm of course i've got one of those too, silly me :-[
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: javabug on April 02, 2010, 16:43:09 pm About the only thing i've found WD is good at is smelling nice. Going to try the ATF/Acetone mix for sure.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: danny gabbard on April 02, 2010, 17:09:45 pm I have been using ATF and paint reducer for years, Works great. Before I start disassemblely of any project I go around and give all hardware a good soaking.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: 61SNRF on April 03, 2010, 02:16:57 am ATF and paint thinner (naptha) unfroze the rusted solid VW pliers in my tool kit, now they work fine. Lots of anti-oxidants in ATF.
Is Kano Kroil some high dollar super product or what? I've never heard of it. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: BeetleBug on April 03, 2010, 11:08:37 am I HATE the smell of transmission fluid and nothing can ruin my day in the garage more than that smell. How will it smell mixed with acetone or paint thinner? And how is it to breath that mix?
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 03, 2010, 18:01:04 pm I HATE the smell of transmission fluid and nothing can ruin my day in the garage more than that smell. How will it smell mixed with acetone or paint thinner? And how is it to breath that mix? X2. There are many other ways to loosen rusted bolts. Breathing toxic cancer causing fumes isn't on my list. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Zach Gomulka on April 03, 2010, 23:38:36 pm It's better than gear lube!! :D
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: danny gabbard on April 03, 2010, 23:44:00 pm Mark the thinner avaporate's Or just use staight ATF, Not much works better to brake down rust. If you have ever painted something with a rattle can, You probably inhaled more deadly stuff.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 03, 2010, 23:46:46 pm Which is why I've been wearing masks to paint (can or gun) since I was a kid. Can't stop all of it... but I breathe less of that crap in than most do.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 04, 2010, 18:57:39 pm Which is why I've been wearing masks to paint (can or gun) since I was a kid. Can't stop all of it... but I breathe less of that crap in than most do. .Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 04, 2010, 19:11:18 pm (http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/23/lolwutps9.jpg)
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 05, 2010, 01:43:15 am .
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 05, 2010, 02:12:01 am (http://www.screenwrightist.com/images/blog/pet-costumes/cat-aluminum-foil-fairy-wings-LG.jpg)
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 05, 2010, 02:24:37 am .
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Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Dave Rosique on April 05, 2010, 16:59:11 pm I get it. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Jason Foster on April 05, 2010, 18:09:31 pm (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n44/gui110tine/tin_foil_hat.gif)
(http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu330/cthulhu19887/movie%20and%20tv/tin%20foil%20hat/outfront-conspiracy-watch-tin-foil-.jpg) Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 05, 2010, 19:34:47 pm ;D
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 06, 2010, 08:16:55 am .
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Jason Foster on April 06, 2010, 22:01:16 pm (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv234/finssup/TINFOILHATS.jpg)
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Speed-Randy on April 06, 2010, 23:19:11 pm how did this go so wrong? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 06, 2010, 23:23:00 pm how did this go so wrong? ??? ??? ??? HA! You REALLY don't me to explain that in a public forum, Randy. 'Tis quite simple, really. Au contraire; it went rather right. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: 61SNRF on April 07, 2010, 02:07:01 am Do you use the penetrant to get the foil off your head? I don't understand the relation to the post.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on April 07, 2010, 03:46:17 am Do you use the penetrant to get the foil off your head? I don't understand the relation to the post. LOL Bruce I would Like to hook some Jumper Cables to that Aluminum Foil ;DTitle: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: 61SNRF on April 07, 2010, 05:48:53 am Here Kitty Kitty Kitty.....
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 07, 2010, 08:03:04 am .
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 07, 2010, 08:28:28 am HAHA!!
That nails it, right on cue. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Harry/FDK on April 07, 2010, 16:24:35 pm Years ago i bought a completely seized T4 engine for practice, that thing was so oily that most bolts came off with my hands, EXCEPT the head/cylinder studs. I tried everything: heat, cold, oils, brute force......nothing. This older Air Force guy here
on base told me: Try candle wax..... No kidding. I heated up the areas around the studs, then hit the torch on the candle and let the wax drop around the case threads, then more heat. 10 minutes later all studs removed WITHOUT brute force. My 2 cts. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 07, 2010, 16:48:42 pm I've never heard of the candle wax thing. Was the guy an Air Force mechanic , by chance?
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Jim Ratto on April 07, 2010, 17:30:25 pm Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: javabug on April 07, 2010, 17:49:36 pm I've never heard of the candle wax thing. Was the guy an Air Force mechanic , by chance? Wax has worked for me also. Its a neat trick. Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Dougy Dee on April 08, 2010, 00:59:15 am The wax trick goes back to the flathead engine days.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 08, 2010, 03:40:42 am Very cool concept on that wax idea.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 08, 2010, 05:43:06 am Very cool concept on that wax idea. It must be why the bolts never seize on your surfboard.Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 08, 2010, 11:23:34 am Rim shot.
Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Harry/FDK on April 08, 2010, 16:44:06 pm I've never heard of the candle wax thing. Was the guy an Air Force mechanic , by chance? Hi John, yes he was an AF mechanic/certified welder, being around engines for years. I just couldn't believe the result of this trick. Best Regards, Harry Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: John Rayburn on April 08, 2010, 22:09:25 pm I've never heard of the candle wax thing. Was the guy an Air Force mechanic , by chance? Hi John, yes he was an AF mechanic/certified welder, being around engines for years. I just couldn't believe the result of this trick. Best Regards, Harry Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: ian c on April 08, 2010, 22:25:53 pm we're talking about hair wax , right ??
coz i just tried some lady's leg wax , wiped sweat , and now i only have one eyebrow . Title: Re: Rusted Bolts?? Penetrating Oils Compared Post by: Rennsurfer on April 08, 2010, 23:30:41 pm HAHA!! Nice, Ian... oh, and great avatar, too. Get back over here so we have a pint of dark bier.
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