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Title: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Jo Clifford on April 18, 2010, 18:21:58 pm
We hadn't been before, and it was definitely fun to watch.     :)


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Jo Clifford on April 18, 2010, 18:24:30 pm
 :)


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Jo Clifford on April 18, 2010, 18:25:27 pm
 :)


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Stephan S on April 18, 2010, 20:30:00 pm
Great pictures! Thanks Jo.
I haven't been to the Sand Drags since '93... Any VW-powered vehicles still in competition?
Steph


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: richie on April 19, 2010, 04:07:20 am
Great pictures! Thanks Jo.
I haven't been to the Sand Drags since '93... Any VW-powered vehicles still in competition?
Steph

Steph,there were somewhere between 12/15 Vw powered[well flat 4 anyway ;) ] vehicles that I saw,from really old 2 seat rails with ARPM and Autocraft engines to modern dragster rails with pauter engines,heres Mario of Pauter fames rail,with part of the turbo missing as they bent the shaft and were away getting it fixed,also a sidewinder style rail which supposedly ran 80% methanol with 20% Nitro :o

And then a Blown V8 Alcohol dragster,it was an experience for sure

cheers richie


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Sarge on April 19, 2010, 12:54:41 pm
Cool pictures!!  That sidewinder is some serious engineering.  Many years ago, I remember Jeff Mamer of Brawley, Ca. and his mechanically injected piece... it hauled ass! 8)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Cp63yJ2O0w8/S8cDdaJADvI/AAAAAAAAAsw/1OB1VH7Ykms/s800/IMG_0004.jpg)



Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: wolfswest on April 19, 2010, 13:23:20 pm
wow  :o  never seen something like that before...  What are the best ET's in the sand?  ???


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Ragtop on April 19, 2010, 15:00:49 pm
That Rolls Royce is awesome!

How long are the races 1/8 of a mile or? What kind of speeds do they reach?

/Johan


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: richie on April 19, 2010, 16:54:14 pm
That Rolls Royce is awesome!

How long are the races 1/8 of a mile or? What kind of speeds do they reach?

/Johan

300feet and highest speed I saw was 162mph in 2.32 seconds

Rotary engine entry anyone?


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Stephan S on April 19, 2010, 17:54:49 pm
Fantastic stuff! Where was the race? San Berdo?


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Jo Clifford on April 19, 2010, 21:15:16 pm
Fantastic stuff! Where was the race? San Berdo?
It was at Lake Elsinore,
here's a couple more photos.


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Carlos De Alba on April 19, 2010, 22:00:16 pm
always a good time at the sand drags..........

that third picture (purple car - Villa Express) belongs to my brother in law and his dad!!!   ;)



Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Black Sheep on April 19, 2010, 22:49:20 pm
Mad stuff , must be the way to go as they can't need to have the track shut for too long after an oil down with all that sand to mop it up  ;)


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Sarge on April 20, 2010, 03:38:28 am
There's sand drags and then there's.... ;D

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Cp63yJ2O0w8/S8cDZ-A2QKI/AAAAAAAAAsc/q8C59HXfPVE/s800/IMG.jpg)


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: javabug on April 20, 2010, 13:11:43 pm
Are we going to see a yellow RHD cabrio with large paddles fitted soon? 


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: jamiep_jamiep on April 23, 2010, 09:19:46 am
Cool pics...

I know nothing at all about the sand drags, looks like it would be hard on the machinery! how do the 60ft's compare to running on a drag strip? You know, 12 against a 12? Just wondering how well they get the power down...

VERY cool.
 :)


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Sarge on April 23, 2010, 20:42:23 pm
Cool pics...

I know nothing at all about the sand drags, looks like it would be hard on the machinery! how do the 60ft's compare to running on a drag strip? You know, 12 against a 12? Just wondering how well they get the power down...

VERY cool.
 :)


I have a friend who used to have a Jr. Fuel dragster many years ago.  He noted that hooking up on sand was a lot like leaving on pavement after a few passes in our old buggy.  We used to run 7lbs of air for duning and 4-5 lbs at the hill on Saturday night... good enough to yank the front end a foot and set you back hard in the seat.  I remember being at Glamis one weekend and hooking up with a bunch of hard-core guys from Brawley.  I got my ass whipped by guys in lighter cars with less motor but way more knowledge on car set up (a heavy flywheel will launch your car NICE in the sand).  I don't feel that sand is any harder on an engine, either... just make sure you have EVERYTHING sealed up.  There's never a shortage of exotic cars to look at, too...

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Cp63yJ2O0w8/S8cDeaV88rI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PFvwbLmjPLA/s800/IMG_0005.jpg)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Cp63yJ2O0w8/S8cDcbWbmRI/AAAAAAAAAso/lqVfi6UjXOo/s800/IMG_0003.jpg)


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Dave Rosique on April 24, 2010, 00:06:26 am

Hey Sarge,
Is that Craig's stainless car from Sandrail Mfg??
If so, that must be an old pic!

~DR.
 


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Sarge on April 24, 2010, 01:51:57 am

Hey Sarge,
Is that Craig's stainless car from Sandrail Mfg??
If so, that must be an old pic!

~DR.
 

The bottom pic is Al Noriega's car.  Al was the Parts Mgr. at Renfree VW in the early '70's and was instrumental in steering me to the dunes.  Al also had a bad ass sand drag car with a FAT built motor.  My first sand drags were on the beach in Oxnard with Al. 


Title: Re: An afternoon at the Sand Drags
Post by: Chris Andrews - The Mailman on April 25, 2010, 03:58:42 am
(http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?PHPSESSID=a197061c68563fd939722806a42859b3&action=dlattach;topic=12341.0;attach=41003;image)

If you would like to see Jeff Mamer's VW / Pauter dragster run at this event, then log onto : http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041810tehighlights.wmv (http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041810tehighlights.wmv)

Also look at : http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041710tehighlights.wmv (http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041710tehighlights.wmv)

I am sorry that I missed the event, as the TF record was set by Scott Whipple. Very serious power these guys are running. A video of Scott's run is available: http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041810tfhighlights.wmv (http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041810tfhighlights.wmv) http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041710tfhighlights.wmv (http://www.nsdn.us/video/lakeels041710tfhighlights.wmv)

The National Sand Drag Association (NSDA) website may be found @ www.sand-drags.com (http://www.sand-drags.com)

Enjoy,

Chris Andrews - The Mailman