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Title: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: peach_ on June 20, 2010, 11:59:41 am
Dont know if this is the right place or more off topic but here goes?

Theres a Lotus-Porsche 23b, basically a lotus 23 with a flat 4 porsche engine in the back instead of the normal engine, im just trying to find out a little more about them?

anyhelp would be great cheers

(http://assets.speedtv.com/images/article_assets/841/841713/841713_article_img_large1.jpg)


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 13:13:53 pm
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1686/usrrc570xu1.jpg)

just search on the web and you will have info  ;D ;D ;D

lotus B/C (http://forums.autosport.com/lofiversion/index.php/t91159.html)


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 13:18:48 pm
 everyhting you want is here (http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/31974/index.html?no_cache=1)


(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/6b8bb69dad.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/8676462f46.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/34a92da8bc.jpg)


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 13:21:04 pm
(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/fdc90a0bca.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/f51975d8f2.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/78544f6b22.jpg)


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 13:23:47 pm
 ;)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/5c1c93fcb8.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/b633921fb4.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/4acf6a65b4.jpg)


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 13:25:27 pm
(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/a0e96ebf0c.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/398127f355.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/c32e90ed54.jpg)

(http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/6c5e752fd3.jpg)




Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: deano on June 20, 2010, 14:25:27 pm
Boy, that would cost a few bucks to restore that one...


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: Rennsurfer on June 20, 2010, 15:18:09 pm
Dont know if this is the right place or more off topic but here goes?

Theres a Lotus-Porsche 23b, basically a lotus 23 with a flat 4 porsche engine in the back instead of the normal engine, im just trying to find out a little more about them?

anyhelp would be great cheers

(http://assets.speedtv.com/images/article_assets/841/841713/841713_article_img_large1.jpg)

I vote that it stays here. It's dechromed, has eye pleasing wheels/tires, huge engine topped off with high performance carbs. Yep, it's Cal Look. What a great car. I'll contact my friend, Jim, in Tejas... he races many different types of Porsches and knows his history with those cars. Hopefully, I can get some information for you, Fabian.


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: peach_ on June 20, 2010, 17:23:11 pm
Boy, that would cost a few bucks to restore that one...

The company i work for did the restoration, its in the work shop  ;) hahah, I was more trying to find out about the engine? i know its the carrera 356 engine but thats about it, how colse is to a type 1 motor?

Cheers


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: Nico86 on June 20, 2010, 18:43:18 pm
Interesting car.


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: Rick Meredith on June 20, 2010, 21:12:09 pm
There was also a Porsche powered Cooper built nicknamed the Pooper


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 21:19:48 pm
There was also a Porsche powered Cooper built nicknamed the Pooper

i found this
 (http://epichonor.50webs.com/photo/Pooper.jpg)

because when you wrote pooper it's very different that a cooper with porsche engine  ::) ::)...................... ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 21:21:43 pm
check here (http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/CorrazaCooperPorsche.html)

(http://www.emorymotorsports.com/vintage/images/images2/DSC_0956.jpg)


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2010, 21:52:52 pm
pooper
(http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/1-cooper-pooper.jpg)


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 20, 2010, 22:27:50 pm
hey Nico86, the "Carrera" engine has very very little with the pushrod 356 engine and even less with VW Type 1. Has 2 cams per bank (4 total) driven off bevel gears and shafts...dry sump oiling....timing gears @ flywheel end of crank....twin plug per cyl....early versions were built up Hirth roller bearing cranks/1 pc rods....dual entry radial fan cooling....most potent versions were good for about 100hp/liter for hours on end in grueling events (Le Mans, 1000km Nurburgring, Targa...etc). Last version was Type 587 1966ccm used in 904 Carrera GTS, made around 185hp, 46IDM Webers, in excess of 340 deg intake cam timing.... one bad mother of a motor.
Check out Karl Ludvigsen's "Excellence Was Expected" for full story on motor, and the Lotus/Elva/Carrera.
Jim


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: tuna on June 21, 2010, 06:27:06 am
Check with Jake Raby of http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/ Jake has done a lot of research on the Carrera engine and it's restoration. -- Tuna


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: Dirk / DFL on June 21, 2010, 15:00:57 pm
There is also an Elva with an Porsche engine, but its a eigth-cylinder....

http://www.porsche.com/germany/sportandevents/motorsport/history/racingcars/60ies/1964-elvaporschebergspyder/

I`ve also seen elvas with 4- and 6-cylinders at oldtimer-races here in europe.


Title: Re: Lotus-Porsche 23B???
Post by: Neil Davies on June 22, 2010, 09:52:19 am
There is also an Elva with an Porsche engine, but its a eigth-cylinder....

http://www.porsche.com/germany/sportandevents/motorsport/history/racingcars/60ies/1964-elvaporschebergspyder/

I`ve also seen elvas with 4- and 6-cylinders at oldtimer-races here in europe.


At the Autosport show in the uK a few years ago there was an Elva-Porsche on display - pretty sure it was a 4-cam, but it was running 46IDAs anyway, which was what got my attention in the first place!