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Title: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: davvide on October 04, 2010, 19:25:26 pm

I'm thinking about slick tires, which kind? M&H. Phoenix. Hoosier, other brands?
Is better to mount also the tubes?
Now I'm looking for 26 x 6 - 15, I think that the 8,5 is too big

Engine is 90,5 x 76
044 magnum with 42 x 37,5
48 ida w/ 40mm vents
engle w125
cr 9:5

Best et is 14,118 on 1/4 mile with stock transmission and street tires

I'm waiting a rancho pro comp gear box (rp 3.88 - 1st 3.78, 2.06, 1.48 e 1.14)  with swing axle h/d ecc






Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: dannyboy on October 04, 2010, 23:22:39 pm
i think you only have mh and phoenix in that size? mh are a fair bit lighter and dont go flat without tubes handy if its left in the garage on slicks whereas he pheonix ones go flat after a few days but i prefer the look of the phoenix tyres ;D hope this helps :)


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: Adele AW on October 05, 2010, 00:56:50 am
Are you planning on going quicker than a 14.1? Having slicks can also slow you down unless you have the power to carry them.

If so go for the M&H, we ran them until i crashed recently and would still have them if our plans had not changed, since we are now going for a larger slick. They never went flat nor did they develop any flat spots. If you are going to be leaving the slicks on permanently then you need to make sure you keep the car jacked up when its not being used.



Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: Bruce on October 05, 2010, 06:49:37 am
You're not ready for slicks.
You don't have enough hp to take advantage of slicks.  If you put slicks on, you'll go slower since you'll bog on the line.

Also, you don't have nearly enough hp to pull a 3.88 R&P with a stock 1st gear.  I'd recommend a 4.12.


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: Devils speedshop on October 05, 2010, 10:48:41 am
I whould go for this.

http://www.mandhtires.com/store.php?crn=73&rn=311&action=show_detail

Christian


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: davvide on October 05, 2010, 18:02:35 pm
Thank you for reply...
Yes danny, only M&H and Phoenix have that size, and also I like more Phoenix than M&H!

I'd like to go quicker than my best e/t and I had think about slick tires because now with firestone f560 (205/70) I haven't any grip in the 1st gear and a little bit for the 2nd gear also.

So, how many hp I'll need to be sure with slick tires?
Anyone has an experience with an engine like mine?


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: dannyboy on October 05, 2010, 18:12:01 pm
nitrous and mh slicks ;) youll be away ;D then its nice on the street when you dont turn the nos on 8)


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: Jo Clifford on October 05, 2010, 18:12:56 pm
Thank you for reply...
Yes danny, only M&H and Phoenix have that size, and also I like more Phoenix than M&H!

I'd like to go quicker than my best e/t and I had think about slick tires because now with firestone f560 (205/70) I haven't any grip in the 1st gear and a little bit for the 2nd gear also.

So, how many hp I'll need to be sure with slick tires?
Anyone has an experience with an engine like mine?


The M&H treaded DOT tyre would be a good compromise,it grips alot better than a regular tyre but not as sticky as a slick and you can still drive to the track and back if you want without extra wheels

Jo


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: JS on October 05, 2010, 19:48:29 pm
What she said.  :)


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: 64 RCR on October 05, 2010, 21:45:25 pm
From experience you will break the gearbox (mainshaft/strip 1st gear) running a Rancho Pro comp box with slicks. If you want to run slicks move upto the Pro-Drag with a good mainshaft, ERCO etc;

Other than that run some Pirelli P600 205/70 at 18psi on the track. This should help given the horsepower that your motor has.  ;)


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: JS on October 05, 2010, 22:11:29 pm
In my experience clutch setup has more to do with broken gearboxes than slicks do.  ;)


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: Bruce on October 06, 2010, 04:22:36 am
.... now with firestone f560 (205/70) I haven't any grip in the 1st gear .....
What are your 60' times?


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: davvide on October 06, 2010, 07:40:24 am
best et on 60' is 1,953 normally is around 2,100
after work I can post other specs of transmission to have more details
so I would  run quicker but not necessarily with slick tires, that was my idea


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: Neil Davies on October 06, 2010, 09:28:58 am
When I was running my 1600 with slicks (Phoenix 26x6W) I found that they didn't make the car much quicker, just more consistent. Instead of the 60' being anywhere between 1.9 and 2.2 seconds, they became 1.9 every time. As I was bracket racing, that was vital. With the 2180 and both 2276's I always ran slicks so have nothing to compare it to.


Title: Re: Which kind of slick tires?
Post by: davvide on October 06, 2010, 22:06:23 pm
well, this is engine spec:

cb 044 ultra mag 42 x 37,5
forged crank 76mm counterweight
flywheel lightweight and counterweight
connecting rod 5,5 H
engle w125
rocker arm 1:25
48 ida with 40mm vents (before I used 37mm)
kennedy stage 2
r.c. 9:5

trans:

rancho pro comp 1st 3.78, 2.06, 1.48 e 1.14
super diff
swing axle heavy duty