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Title: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Martin Greaves on December 11, 2010, 23:42:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3orXopgLNs&feature=player_embedded#!


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Wünderwolff on December 12, 2010, 00:17:43 am
To be honest, I love this. I've often been wondering if I should build my car like that. It's just the oh so limited independence from the grid that holds me back. Say 100 miles of careless driving and then having to charge for more than 8 hours. Where's the fun in that?

But, very important question, would this be considered Cal-Look? And what if you would add a Berg linkage  ;D I know some are racing electrical engines, with great success and low ET's!


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Martin Greaves on December 12, 2010, 00:21:01 am
Yes i hate to say this but i'm starting to like the idea of it to. :)


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Black Sheep on December 12, 2010, 00:28:59 am
Yeah I alway's wanted a looker that sounds like a milk float  ::)


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Nico86 on December 12, 2010, 01:05:25 am
Electric cars eeeeeeek (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/b/being_sick-3298.gif)

Am I the only one to hate it ?  ;D


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: kingsburgphil on December 12, 2010, 04:21:38 am
Quote from: Nico86 link=topic=er14481.msg213949#msg213949 date=1292112325
Electric cars eeeeeeek (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/b/being_sick-3298.gif)

Am I the only one to hate it ?  ;D

You're not alone out there!  After ten years with Saturn, I saw all I could stand of "cordless cars" (GM EV1). Under the right circumstances a battery
powered car might be practical, the way a golf cart is practical. Otherwise the compromises outweigh the benefits with current technology.
Personally I like the GM Volt...at least in theory, time will tell if it works in the real world.

I'll pose this same question to this forum that asked my GM field service engineer. While glancing around the service dept., who among the
mechanics out there would you trust to service an alternative energy vehicle ie. fuel cell etc.?

As far as I'm concerned a battery powered car as a replacement for a conventional car is like calling a "wet dream"... Intercourse.

Feel free to chime in on this one  :)


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Wünderwolff on December 12, 2010, 09:12:59 am
Just look at the first movie in this link: http://www.nedra.com/ (http://www.nedra.com/) and tell me you are not impressed.


I'll pose this same question to this forum that asked my GM field service engineer. While glancing around the service dept., who among the
mechanics out there would you trust to service an alternative energy vehicle ie. fuel cell etc.?

As far as I'm concerned a battery powered car as a replacement for a conventional car is like calling a "wet dream"... Intercourse.

Feel free to chime in on this one  :)

I' m not sure I get what you mean, do you mean you wouldn't let a "simple" mechanic work on an EV because they would mess up? Or rather, do you mean half of them would be out of a job as there is little maintenance to do?


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Nico86 on December 12, 2010, 11:33:35 am
Why I hate electric cars :

1. It's not "fun" to me : not enough noisy, not enough smelly, not enough "wild"  ;D

2. Thinking that all the cars in the world will be electrical on day is a dream, even if one day they manage to build a reliable and usefull car.
Can you imagine the among of electricity to produce if everyone will plug his car for charging at night ? Here in Europe they sometimes have trouble in winter when all the lights and heating are turned on. A lot of people seem to think that electricity is free and ilimitate, and that you just have to plug a wire on the wall to have plenty : add all elctrical cars in the world and we will need to cover the earth with combustion and nuclear stations.

3. I don't like the political/economical thing that hides behind all this ecological movement today : some are fooling and scaming us for some interests.


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: kingsburgphil on December 12, 2010, 18:01:13 pm
Just look at the first movie in this link: http://www.nedra.com/ (http://www.nedra.com/) and tell me you are not impressed.


I'll pose this same question to this forum that asked my GM field service engineer. While glancing around the service dept., who among the
mechanics out there would you trust to service an alternative energy vehicle ie. fuel cell etc.?

As far as I'm concerned a battery powered car as a replacement for a conventional car is like calling a "wet dream"... Intercourse.

Feel free to chime in on this one  :)

I' m not sure I get what you mean, do you mean you wouldn't let a "simple" mechanic work on an EV because they would mess up? Or rather, do you mean half of them would be out of a job as there is little maintenance to do?
Impressive? Definitely, with maximum torque @ 0 rpm they should be. Electric propulsion has long ago proven superior to IC engines, especially where weight is not an
issue.

Regarding technicians, here in the USA we have a shortage of highly skilled "techs". Without product specific training the average mechanic would "mess up" himself
as well as the vehicle. Production EV's have very sophisticated systems that bear little resemblance to home made one-offs. Increasing the number of vehicles, at least in the
short term will only make the problem worse.

Compounding the problem is the Vocational Education system, nationally its in shambles. Coupled with unethical dealers and profit driven service managers, odds are we
the customers will suffer the most. IMHO, we should pattern our Voc Ed system after the German system. But I doubt that will ever happen given the current state of affairs. 


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Black Sheep on December 13, 2010, 08:42:48 am
First thing to put me off were the colour coded cookie cutters  ::) then it was all down hill for me  ;D


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 13, 2010, 17:32:21 pm
I think electric/hybrid/plug-in hybrids could work for the vast majority of people. But being a car guy, I want nothing to do with them ;)


Title: Re: Is this the future of us keeping are old cars on the road.
Post by: Lids on December 13, 2010, 23:54:53 pm
Well at the start of the 20th century electric cars outnumbered petrol/diesel cars!