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Title: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Dave Rosique on May 10, 2011, 20:55:46 pm Need some help guys. I have a chance to pick up a set of deep six alloys (yeah, Fuchs ;)). Anyway, I'm buying them sight unseen.. no pic's, only a verbal description from the seller. Here's my question: Does anybody know how long these wheels have been reproduced? Is Flat 4 the only re-pops of this wheel? From the sellers description, they are definitely 6", have the deep outer lip, have hearts, and do not have the inner tire safety bead (smooth inner rim). They have been fully polished at some point and the seller has had them in his possession for about ten years. He claims they do not have any markings on the inside of the spokes but I have not yet confirmed. If they're real, it's a smoking deal and I really want them.. If they're copies, not so much.. Thanks! Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: TexasTom on May 10, 2011, 21:06:14 pm Sounds like a cool deal, Dave!
So, those early wheels don't have part numbers on the backsides? ??? ... I wouldn't know ... only have lates. Hope everything works out for you. TxT Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: The Ideaman on May 10, 2011, 21:25:46 pm Ask if they have a 901xxxx part number on the inside of the spoke and do they have center caps? If they have 3 prong center caps, a fox head on the inside of the spoke and a 901 part number, they should be the real deal.
Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Cornpanzer on May 10, 2011, 21:29:28 pm The above is true if they were production wheels from 69-71. However, the deep 6 could be purchased in 1967 and 68 as a racing part and only had an ink stamp for the casting #'s. These wheels did not have any permanent #s other than the date stamp which was located near the hub (on the backside) between the lugs. While not common, these do turn up. In fact I bought one last month.
I wouldnt purchase without a photo. Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Rocket Ron on May 10, 2011, 21:30:22 pm it may be possible they are 7R wheels I believe that these did not have a part number cast into them as the part number was applied with a rubber stamp in ink
these look the same as early 6" but with more back space that would be a cool deal Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Dave Rosique on May 10, 2011, 21:32:37 pm Hi Tom,
As far as I know, all real Alloys have markings, numbers, dates, etc. Problem is, I can not view them in person just yet and the seller is not able to send photos. He said the back side of the wheels are dirty too.. maybe hiding the markings? The seller is not willing to spend much time helping me either. The guy is older and not in to VW's. :P Thanks Luke, They do have three prong caps.. What about repros? Do they? ??? Cornpanzer, Ink stamp? Thats a new one on me! That's why I ask!! Thanks guys.. Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Rocket Ron on May 10, 2011, 21:37:43 pm http://members.rennlist.com/911pcars/wheelwts.html
this may help also Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Dave Rosique on May 10, 2011, 21:38:15 pm it may be possible they are 7R wheels I believe that these did not have a part number cast into them as the part number was applied with a rubber stamp in ink these look the same as early 6" but with more back space that would be a cool deal Good one Ron! Seller measured the wheels and said they're 6" though.. Thanks! Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: roland on May 10, 2011, 22:02:42 pm don't know how long they have been reproduced but I have had a set of 6 that were not original nor flat4, much older. Great repros, the only detail was that the outer lip had a 45° angle, not a smooth radius like original ones..
Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: danny gabbard on May 10, 2011, 22:19:16 pm If nothing else, Have the guy weigh them! . I would say if they are a cast wheel they would be kinda heavy. Original forged wheels are pretty light!!
Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Rennsurfer on May 11, 2011, 00:29:14 am Dave, if those are Flat Four wheels and early six (not late), I'll buy 'em.
Call me and let me know. Good luck and I hope that they're real so your Oval can enjoy the alloy goodness. Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Hecker on May 11, 2011, 01:08:56 am i had some fake alloys 30 years ago......they were good looking but did not polish
up real well. Caveat emptor my friend / buyer beware. I don't remember much more about them, sorry. Good luck, try to verify before spending the dough!! Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: youngnstudly on May 11, 2011, 02:21:11 am Don't the spokes taper more (making them thinner) on fake repro rims where the spokes intersect the center cap hole? Maybe he could give you a measurement there (at the narrowest point) so you could compare with someone else on here? ??? Just a thought...He obviously can use a tape measure as you've already found out and it wouldn't be out of his way or time consuming for him. I hate lazy sellers (yes, even when you're scoring big time!). Good luck.
Andy Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Dave Rosique on May 15, 2011, 00:14:15 am I did manage to get some photos... If these are real, I really want them. ??? Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Dave Rosique on May 15, 2011, 00:17:29 am This is the only info I could find on the back.. Thanks guys, I appreciate any help Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Zach Gomulka on May 15, 2011, 00:32:12 am Get 'em!
Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: TexasTom on May 15, 2011, 01:11:43 am I think they're real ... what's that guy's number???
LMAO Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: 2manytoys on May 15, 2011, 01:27:44 am They be the F-real Deal....
Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: DKK Ted on May 15, 2011, 02:50:20 am They look like the real deal to me also, grab'em! ;D
Ted Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: Dave Rosique on May 15, 2011, 03:19:15 am I thought they looked real too! The only thing that threw me was the lack of part numbers, dates, etc on the backside. The deal is a bit more complicated now, not just a simple cash transaction, we now have a trade+cash+parts deal. I'm working hard to pull it together! Thanks! Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: 2manytoys on May 15, 2011, 06:16:24 am I can make it less complicated....I will trade cash and part cash for them....
P- Title: Re: Deep Six Alloys--real or repro? Post by: rick m on May 19, 2011, 00:26:19 am They are the real deal. I've bought and refurbished many of them.
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