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Title: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Jordy/DVK on April 27, 2007, 21:39:12 pm

 Hi guys,

 Does any of you know anything about dating Berg handles?  No I don't mean to take my Berg handle out on a dinner-date or something, I was just wondering from what years certain different styles are. ;)
 
 Cheers, Jordy ;)
 


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Rasser on April 27, 2007, 22:00:53 pm
great idea...   I would like to have all the info possible on my shifter:


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Olaf A./DFL on April 27, 2007, 22:21:28 pm
this must be the early one


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: larry mck on April 27, 2007, 22:34:23 pm
The problem in dating them is that Bergs sold the different handles as a custom order through the years. When I got my 5 speed shifter about 4 years ago I asked for the old finger grip style and got it, but 2 years ago they said no, sold out.


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Jordy/DVK on April 27, 2007, 22:41:39 pm
this must be the early one

About which years are you talking when you say early?
I really have no clue when Gene Berg Ent. started manufacturing their shifters to be honest...

(http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/49181.jpg)




Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Frank LUX on April 27, 2007, 22:48:29 pm
The problem in dating them is that Bergs sold the different handles as a custom order through the years. When I got my 5 speed shifter about 4 years ago I asked for the old finger grip style and got it, but 2 years ago they said no, sold out.

There is a major difference in the Finger Grip Handles.....

The original onces have the the Fixing Holes in a different position that the late onces....

I remember Clyde telling me that they even used a different mold....

The original Finger grips used to have the fixing holes at 5 O'clock position, all the later onces have it at 7 o'clock position...........

Frank


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: DeanoVW on April 28, 2007, 00:17:14 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/BergshiftercollectionSML.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/bergshiftersmll.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/bergpolishedhandle.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/9dd0_1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/Berg5speedlockersml.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/Berg5polishedhandlesml.jpg)

There are certainly a lot of varieties!
I couldn't tell you the dates though.


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: The Ideaman on April 28, 2007, 04:29:06 am
great idea...   I would like to have all the info possible on my shifter:


The earliest one I've seen was sold by Daniel Hood a year or so ago to a guy building a replica of his old looker.  It had the finger grip handle and a brass button.  We were told by Clyde that Berg bought out all the old stock of DDS shifters and used pieces until used up.


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Zach Gomulka on April 28, 2007, 04:52:35 am
Didnt production start in 80-81?


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Pekka on April 28, 2007, 07:57:53 am
I see you missing this style

(http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/9a/69/eae2_1.JPG)


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: jick on April 28, 2007, 08:21:06 am
I see you missing this style

(http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/9a/69/eae2_1.JPG)

thats the type i have... i bought it new in about 1996/97


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Zach Gomulka on April 28, 2007, 09:31:05 am
I see you missing this style

(http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/9a/69/eae2_1.JPG)

thats the type i have... i bought it new in about 1996/97

That was my first too. Bought new in '99.


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Pekka on April 28, 2007, 09:50:15 am
this must be the early one

I've owned 3 of those.


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Oldschool on April 28, 2007, 13:01:16 pm
I see you missing this style

(http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/9a/69/eae2_1.JPG)

thats the type i have... i bought it new in about 1996/97

I got the same as this one except the paint is removed as it was chipped, bought around 96/97 too

Best R.

Oldschool


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Rasser on April 28, 2007, 14:54:01 pm
The problem in dating them is that Bergs sold the different handles as a custom order through the years. When I got my 5 speed shifter about 4 years ago I asked for the old finger grip style and got it, but 2 years ago they said no, sold out.

There is a major difference in the Finger Grip Handles.....

The original onces have the the Fixing Holes in a different position that the late onces....

I remember Clyde telling me that they even used a different mold....

The original Finger grips used to have the fixing holes at 5 O'clock position, all the later onces have it at 7 o'clock position...........

Frank

my fingergrip has two fixing holes at 5 o´clock (seen from above)....  when were these made? and what are the current street price on these if available on the second hand market ?


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Rune on April 28, 2007, 19:08:45 pm
Here's my fingergrip handle..It's a later one


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: DHood on April 30, 2007, 05:59:51 am
Here is some photos of the earliest Berg shifter I have had or seen.  The shifter was NOS and the button is gold anodised.

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/277367.jpg)
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/277368.jpg)
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/277369.jpg)
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/277370.jpg)


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Zach Gomulka on April 30, 2007, 06:57:53 am
Wow thats one porous casting!!


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: Sander/DVK on April 30, 2007, 20:24:08 pm
Wow thats one porous casting!!
Wurms ;D


Title: Re: Berg shifter handle styles...
Post by: El Diablo Gris on May 01, 2007, 19:25:56 pm
My early Berg 5-Speed Pistol Grip that I slightly modified with some color. ;)