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Title: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on May 13, 2007, 19:09:13 pm
So, at the beginning of the year, I picked Kimi to be champ and a friend picked Alonso.  Looks like we both may have underestimated Hamilton and Massa!
Anyone else F1 fans out there?


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: DeanoVW on May 13, 2007, 20:05:25 pm
Lewis Hamilton is a champion in waiting.
I am glad Schumacher has retired, its much more interesting to watch this year.
David Coulthard had a great race today.
Its going to be a very close fought championship this year.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Liou on May 13, 2007, 21:24:26 pm
yes lewis hamilton is good rookie F1 year !! lol
I hope the end of season world championship for lewis 


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on May 13, 2007, 23:16:14 pm
Lewis Hamilton is a champion in waiting.
I am glad Schumacher has retired, its much more interesting to watch this year.
David Coulthard had a great race today.
Its going to be a very close fought championship this year.
yes, DC is driving for his ride right now!  Hamilton is just brilliant!

So whats the opinion of Alonso's 1st corner move today?  Was he clean or a wanker?   ;)


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Rick Meredith on May 14, 2007, 07:23:36 am
WANKER!  ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on May 14, 2007, 13:08:54 pm
I have to agree Rick.  Alonso almost appeared a bit desperate to get around Massa and into the lead.  He probably feels more comfortable with at least one car between himself and his teammate.   ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: ESH on May 14, 2007, 13:34:03 pm
I think yesterday was Alonso's second noticeable mistake in terms of judgement in F1, the other being the incident at Interlagos under a yellow so I'm not sure too much can be read into it, he still placed. Hamilton and Alonso are shaping up to be one of the great F1 pairings, possibly already are. Great to see top flight team mates fight it out again and hopefully we'll have four drivers down to the wire. I think Ferrari in the Schumacher era fielded two cars to place one, whilst they were only able to do this due to Schumachers ability I think the strategy flattered him in terms of the statistics. If he had a team mate with ability and fight he'd maybe have had a few less wins and  championships. If they thought Kimi would be able to do the same for them it seems Massa's got some other idea of his role and that's got to be a good thing.
:)


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Tim C on May 14, 2007, 13:56:37 pm
Still a lot to come from Alonso this season, his record is more than decent: 88 starts, 15 wins and 15 poles..

4 podium finishes from Hamilton in his first season is just incredible, seeing a British driver at the top of the table is a great thing. The McLaren is certainly helping him, but his natural ability seems to be shining through.

Hopefully this is gearing up to be the best season for a while. I am lucky enough to have F1 as a client of mine, so am looking forward to going to a few of them again this year  8)


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Rick Meredith on May 15, 2007, 07:16:19 am
Even though Alonso has won the past 2 championships, Shumacher leaving has really shook up the grid.

I'm sure that Alonso is feeling the pressure of his team mate.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Tim C on May 15, 2007, 08:56:21 am
Couldn't agree more, the grid has more potential now. Schumacher really was great to watch, his last GP was a testament to his driving ability.

Role on some good races for this year and with the potetnial introduction of night races and another street course in Valencia, Spain, F1 could return to it's glory days once more.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: LuftsickTero on May 16, 2007, 12:48:45 pm
I think yesterday was Alonso's second noticeable mistake in terms of judgement in F1, the other being the incident at Interlagos under a yellow so I'm not sure too much can be read into it, he still placed.

Along with hitting the concrete quardrail in Canada ('05?) and squalling "somethings wrong with the car" to the radio  :D

Hamilton and Alonso are shaping up to be one of the great F1 pairings, possibly already are.

I am very much impressed with Hamilton, but long way to become one of the greatest F1 pairings, or depends what is great pairing in modern F1, Villeneuve&Pironi or Senna&Berger or Prost&Mansell or even Shumacher&Barrichello where either one understood each other's roles? It'll become interesting seeing if or when Alonso cracks, rookie is already leading the points chase.. Too bad that the racers have become such commercial wind-up dolls, I do miss the times when Nelson Piquet gave comments in Brazilian Playboy magazine on how ugly Mansell's wife was and Senna is gay.. or the times when Mansell / Piquet / Senna / Prost were all in competitive cars hated each others gut and didn't give an inch. (of course aerodynamics were different back then and cars less reliable)

If they thought Kimi would be able to do the same for them it seems Massa's got some other idea of his role and that's got to be a good thing.
:)

Disappointing, I was expecting Kimi to walk all over Massa and believed that Kimi had better race pace or at least more constant. Upside from his bad luck has been not seeing/hearing him on press conferences. He looks somehow like shadow of what he was with McLaren.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: ESH on May 17, 2007, 13:11:07 pm
Along with hitting the concrete quardrail in Canada ('05?) and squalling "somethings wrong with the car" to the radio  :D

Yeah but all the greats have taken a chunk out of that wall, it's like an actor leaving a signature on the Hollywood Boulevard :D Something's wrong with the car? No shit!

I am very much impressed with Hamilton, but long way to become one of the greatest F1 pairings, or depends what is great pairing in modern F1, Villeneuve&Pironi or Senna&Berger or Prost&Mansell or even Shumacher&Barrichello where either one understood each other's roles? It'll become interesting seeing if or when Alonso cracks, rookie is already leading the points chase.. Too bad that the racers have become such commercial wind-up dolls, I do miss the times when Nelson Piquet gave comments in Brazilian Playboy magazine on how ugly Mansell's wife was and Senna is gay.. or the times when Mansell / Piquet / Senna / Prost were all in competitive cars hated each others gut and didn't give an inch. (of course aerodynamics were different back then and cars less reliable)

My point of reference for great pairings originates with the first Grand Prix I went to see at Brands Hatch in which both Prost and Lauda were racing for McLaren. That year they slogged it out and Lauda took it by half a point, now that's a racing team! Both good in their own right given the same kit and opportunity they got out there and hammered away at it all season. I think there was a mutual respect in that pairing but they were great sportsmen and weren't going to let that friendship get in the way of on track rivalry. I think it may have been the same in 88 when Prost got paired with Senna but come 89 they hated each other, another fantastic pairing but with a whole different dynamic. I guess what I mean by a great pairing is those that can and do. That is to say the one's that make the sport great for the fans. I don't think Barrichello fits that as I don't believe he was driving to win, with him it was more of a case of could but didn't. A shame for his career in my view as he was a hugely talented driver in his own right. It was however a great pairing for Ferrari from a management perspective, no double red smoking wrecks to deal with. One less driver fighting for it and it's less of a sport. The Prost / Mansell piaring was good but not great as Prost was able to lead the team more in his favour than Mansell, it was at times almost Ferrari'esque with some of the goings on, for example Prost on realising his car was crap got the team to switch it with Mansell's without him knowing! That Mansell / Piquet / Senna / Prost era was as a whole funny as f**k! None of them gave a crap about anything other than crossing the line first. There have ofcourse been many great pairings many of which were before I started watching the sport blow by blow but given that both Alonso and Hamilton can and do I'd add them to the list. I can't wait to see what comes of it.

Disappointing, I was expecting Kimi to walk all over Massa and believed that Kimi had better race pace or at least more constant. Upside from his bad luck has been not seeing/hearing him on press conferences. He looks somehow like shadow of what he was with McLaren.

It'll be a shame if this is a sign of things to come with Kimi as having him up there would make for some great racing. On the other hand if he becomes frustrated and Massa continues to drive like he just did then it could be interesting for a totally different reason. Unable to assert his position in the team maybe Kimi will become frustrated and then it could be right back to that Senna/Prost type dynamic? One thing we do know is that Kimi has the capacity to make some class comments such as his gem in reference Brundle's question about Schumacher's retirement. "So you think you'll get over it eh?"  ;D

 :)


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: LuftsickTero on July 11, 2007, 09:08:41 am
Latest info about the spying quarrel..  ;D

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Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: ESH on July 11, 2007, 13:04:10 pm
 ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on September 21, 2007, 00:05:45 am
Reviving this with two words.   

FIRE ALONSO!


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: empicolector on September 29, 2007, 09:06:18 am
schumi is missing me


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: alex d on October 08, 2007, 12:40:34 pm
this is getting interesting after the China GP  ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on October 08, 2007, 15:39:53 pm
I just wanted to cry.  What was Hamilton thinking?  :o

As soon as I saw him go cranking into the pits, I just covered my eyes.  :'(


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: jick on October 08, 2007, 18:16:36 pm
I just wanted to cry.  What was Hamilton thinking?  :o

As soon as I saw him go cranking into the pits, I just covered my eyes.  :'(

hell yeah, and what were his team thinking keeping him out that long when he was losing so much pace for a good 3 or 4 laps.

i dont think i can bear to watch the last race......it just seems to have a air of typical britsh fuck-it-all-up at the last minute about it.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on October 08, 2007, 21:29:43 pm
Seriously, I really dont think I can watch it.  I may go on line and see the results before I sit down to watch.
It wouldnt hurt my feelings if Kimi wor, but if FA wins I will drive my car into a bridge abutment. >:(   :D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: empicolector on October 08, 2007, 22:58:50 pm
Hamilton must leave mc laren


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on October 09, 2007, 13:23:40 pm
For what reason?  ???


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Tim C on October 09, 2007, 13:27:06 pm
I have a feeling that Hamilton and Alonso will crash on first corner, Kimi will drive through, take the win and the title.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: benssp on October 09, 2007, 13:30:04 pm
i dont think i can bear to watch the last race......it just seems to have a air of typical britsh fuck-it-all-up at the last minute about it.

That's what I said about the rugby on saturday but I was wrong. There I was standing with all the other men folk in a supermarket glued to the screen, I nearly went to grab some beers and pay for the empty cans on the way out! never thought we'd beat Australia, but we did ;D

Good thing is Hamilton is ahead on points so it would be pointless for Alonso to do a 'Schumacher' and cause an accident to win.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: LuftsickTero on October 09, 2007, 13:34:36 pm
i dont think i can bear to watch the last race......it just seems to have a air of typical britsh fuck-it-all-up at the last minute about it.

That's what I'm hoping for  ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: empicolector on October 09, 2007, 21:45:19 pm
I have a feeling that Hamilton and Alonso will crash on first corner, Kimi will drive through, take the win and the title.
yes that what I see too alonso could do that he had nothing to loose instead of lewis
lewis must change of team because I think that what happen this week end was calculate by dennis and his spy team
everything was arranged by the fia to punish mc laren and even if lewis win the final battle for  tittle his victory was corrupted by this spy stories
 and I think too that mc laren was gulty but they could still use their car  for the end of championship ??? ??? ???I am not the only one to think that ask to jean todd or felipe massa what they think about the MP4 22 this year
In france we said that the mc laren this season run like a ferrari !!!! ;) ;D
 this my global point of view for this season and I am respected all the other
kimi will win the tittle


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: LuftsickTero on October 19, 2007, 11:10:13 am
Too bad that similar won't happen on Sunday :D (Tommi Mäkinen winning title when Carlos Sainz's car dies just before the finishing line)

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Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: jick on October 21, 2007, 16:55:25 pm
race just about to start............

come on Lewis!!!


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: LuftsickTero on October 21, 2007, 18:33:17 pm
Ah.. ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Jordy/DVK on October 21, 2007, 18:51:46 pm

 ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Black Sheep on October 21, 2007, 18:53:23 pm
God its just an emotional roller coaster being a England fan ,football , rugby and now formula one , Im off , has any one got another country I can adopt  :'( :'( ::)


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Jordy/DVK on October 21, 2007, 18:55:18 pm

 Scotland maybe? ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Black Sheep on October 21, 2007, 18:58:04 pm
Yeah didn't they win the word elephant polo championship's last year  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on October 21, 2007, 19:21:23 pm
So, at the beginning of the year, I picked Kimi to be champ and a friend picked Alonso.  Looks like we both may have underestimated Hamilton and Massa!
Anyone else F1 fans out there?

Wow!  Imagine that!

Truth be told, by the end of the year I would have liked to see Hammie win.  Kimi really earned it though!


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: BeetleBug on October 21, 2007, 20:09:57 pm
 ;D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: jick on October 21, 2007, 20:15:44 pm
at least it wasn't Alonso.... ;)


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: empicolector on October 21, 2007, 21:41:05 pm
at least it wasn't Alonso.... ;)
:D

i have tell you that kimi will win the tittle no ;)
forza ferrari forza kimi


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Martin Greaves on October 21, 2007, 22:10:18 pm
Hamilton may still be the champion as the BMW team may have played will there fuel.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: LuftsickTero on October 22, 2007, 07:51:18 am
Hamilton may still be the champion as the BMW team may have played will there fuel.

Lucky for Hamilton that he has Charlie Whiting on his side  :D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: empicolector on October 22, 2007, 10:34:42 am
F..K FIA


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: alex d on October 22, 2007, 11:42:34 am
at least it wasn't Alonso.... ;)

funnily enough here in Spain everyone says "at least it wasn't Hamilton"  :D :D


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Cornpanzer on October 22, 2007, 17:59:47 pm
I used to be an Alonso fan until his actions this year.  I cannot respect a man who freely makes public statements against his team.
Whether his comments were based on fact or not, it is reprehensible to badmouth your team to the press.  Even worse in this case was how eager he was to cause problems within the team!

   I also find it ironic that his biggest complaint was that he was not granted #1 status in the team, but then later in the year did nothing but complain that Hamilton might be given an advantage and that this was unsporting.  Make up your mind Fernando....shoould there be a #1 driver or not?  I guess it is only sporting when you are being given the advantage?!?!  ??? ::)

I hope this fuel thing does not affect Kimi's championship as it will be bad for the sport, but I was listening to Peter Windsor earlier and made some interesting points.  This fuel temp issue is not some minor arcane rule.  This is one of the important parameters on each teams monitors in the garages.  There is no way that they could not have been aware of the problem.   It was also interesting that BMW has already been warned about this infraction once this year.  It is indeed a serious infraction,  so this could get ugly....  :-[


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Tim C on October 23, 2007, 09:27:57 am
I can see Alonso moving to To#¤ta next season.

An excellent race on Sunday, a shame for Hamilton, but for a rookie, what a season. I am a big Kimi fan and was pleased he managed to win the title this year, Ferrari really are masters where tactics are involved and Sunday proved it.


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: Tim C on October 23, 2007, 09:29:02 am
The forum not liking the YO in To#¤ta?  ???


Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2007
Post by: empicolector on October 23, 2007, 21:38:20 pm
FIA had validated the final result KIMI is the new champion definitively yessssss