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Title: Datalogger
Post by: Stoffel on October 10, 2011, 14:30:21 pm
Hi,

For next season I'm thinking about installing a datalog system.
Who has any experience on what system to use?

Thanks !

Christophe


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: Jesus on October 10, 2011, 14:37:53 pm
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/

sell some good bits ;D


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: PPRMicke on October 10, 2011, 20:32:42 pm
Hi,

For next season I'm thinking about installing a datalog system.
Who has any experience on what system to use?

Thanks !

Christophe
Hi Christophe
I have used the Innovate for four years and am very pleased
Link   http://www.hqtec.se/c-8-mts-system.aspx

/// Micke


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: Stoffel on October 11, 2011, 08:42:22 am
@ Jesus & Micke; Thanks !

@Micke, what sensors are you using? Rpm,Lambda,oil? new at this so any advise welkome  ;D


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: BeetleBug on October 11, 2011, 09:04:57 am
@ Jesus & Micke; Thanks !

@Micke, what sensors are you using? Rpm,Lambda,oil? new at this so any advise welkome  ;D

I would consider it a waste of money if you`re only logging lambda (a simple AF meter can do the same) RPM (a Autometer would do the same) and oil pressure.

You should aim higher:

- Shock travel
- Wheel spin
- Clutch slip
- Oil temperature
- Battery volt
- Fuel pressure

+ a lot more if you have turbo/Efi engine.

BB


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: Stoffel on October 11, 2011, 10:47:56 am
Thanks BB I already had wheelspin, clutch, oil temp, and battery that in mind but want to know what you guy's are using  ;)


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: BeetleBug on October 11, 2011, 11:12:16 am
Thanks BB I already had wheelspin, clutch, oil temp, and battery that in mind but want to know what you guy's are using  ;)

Looks like you heading in the right direction. I forgot head temp with VDO spark plug sensor to at least 1 or why not all 4 cylinders.



Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: Tekken on October 11, 2011, 12:51:30 pm
I depends how much money you plan on using.I have tried a many of them,Zeitronix,Innovate,RPM,Racepak etc.

You can buy a dash like from Racepak with built in datalogger.Or you can use a stand alone unit.The RPM Performance datalogger is nice and easy to use.I used it in the previous split window racecar, bought a used one from a promod with a lot of accessories on Racingjunk.You can expand up to 36 channels, also calibrate and use sensors from standard cars with 0-5v signal.On the RPM unit you have a signal cable from the sensors to each channel.
Randy at RPM offer good help and quick responce on emails.

http://rpmperf.com/

The Racepak has a V-net/bus system,only one cable going out from the datalogger.Sensors are pre programmed.I use the Racepak V300SD together with UDX dash now, but the datalogger from RPM has all the information you need to at least half the price compared to Racepak.

http://racepak.com/


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: Frallan on October 12, 2011, 06:00:51 am
Thanks Tekken. Good sharing.
I have a lot of Innovate stuff since years but was looking at Racepak dash and logger but now I will consider RPM.
I have seen a  lot of comments on the DL1 or was it DL10 but never investigated it until your post.


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: PPRMicke on October 12, 2011, 18:45:08 pm
@ Jesus & Micke; Thanks !

@Micke, what sensors are you using? Rpm,Lambda,oil? new at this so any advise welkome  ;D
Hello again Christophe
It's really hard to tell what you need if it is a turbo or naturally aspirated
It is never wrong to have the lambda probe if you have a carburetor and engine rpm for it is easier to adjust carburetors
often forget to have a throttle position sensor
I am having a turbo car would be in control of some things that boost
My system log looks like this (DL-32) lambda / engine rpm / boost / gear box RPM / fuel pressure
The LMA-3 exhaust pressure / G sensor 1 (start) G sensor 2 lateral / throttle posititon / height of the rear end / and wheel speed
and TC-4  4 EGT finally SSI -4, I have oil pressure
One can expand the system to the 32 channels for relatively little money
///Micke


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: Stoffel on October 13, 2011, 08:32:29 am
Hi Micke,

I run a N/A for the moment.
Thanks for all the info, we're working on it !
Will post some pic's in a few weeks so you guys can comment !  ;D


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: delroyb on November 01, 2011, 12:59:37 pm
Hi, in my opinion you cannot beat the products from Racetechnology.

I have been using one of their DL1 loggers and dash2 displays for several years. They will log a whole range of paramaters and are easily expandable, they also provide a large range of plug and play sensors. These range from rmp modules, temp senders etc right through to wheels speed, steering position and damer pots. The system uses GPS, but laso has bult in accelerometers too.


The main factor is the software. It is super user friendly and really easy to get info from. I have used PI systems before and found the software very ahrd work. I am sure it is ok if you have a dedicated data engineer to look after things for you, but if doing your own analysis the Racetech software is unbeatable.



Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: peach_ on November 13, 2011, 19:25:42 pm
Hi what sort of Data-logging are you looking at? i.e what data do you want to log?


Title: Re: Datalogger
Post by: Bernard Newbury on November 14, 2011, 00:03:12 am
Check these out . I have been using one for 3 years. Very easy to read and they can be expanded. Very helpful personal help and aftersales. > http://www.computech.com/