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Cal-look/High Performance => Pure racing => Topic started by: Lids on June 03, 2012, 08:37:33 am



Title: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Lids on June 03, 2012, 08:37:33 am
I will probably only get one thing done this summer, and that is fit my external oil cooler with Fan.

How have you attached yours?

Anybody got any special brackets or ducting etc.

I plan to use the normal gearbox location.

TIA.


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Lids on June 04, 2012, 08:02:03 am
Nobody got an pics or ideas, does anybody make a mounting bracket for external coolers?

Here is my cooler:[attachment=1]


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Rocket Ron on June 04, 2012, 09:03:25 am
Lids

Theres a European company that makes a cooler bracket that clamps to the rear torsion bar housing and has a scoop etc but as it's the usual european high quality item it's a lot of euros

I can't remember the company name but I think they were a Swiss made item

Sorry cant be more helpful


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Diederick/DVK on June 04, 2012, 09:54:19 am
That's the one I have, the company's called Cagero. Basically it's a 72 plate oil cooler with a protective duct and 2 U clamps that go around the torsion bar housing.

Otherwise, check out Felix/DFL's solution, he made his own duct. Other than that, the JG54 guys bolt Racimex oil coolers to the parcel shelf. Last, there's a few people around that hang their oil coolers from the parcel shelf by means of Type 4 pushrods...


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Lids on June 04, 2012, 11:23:13 am
Thanks, found it:

Yes it is expensive as it is a complete kit, wondering if they just sell the mounting brackets and ducting.

http://www.cagero.com/cartluft/products.asp?id=23311&cat=Unterflur%2DOelk%FCher+links+%28Satz%29&search=1

We have developed a new sub-floor cooling system for the VW Beetle. An efficient oil cooling, which is not visible from the outside was our goal. Depending on the cooling demand can only be one or two oil cooler can be mounted. Assembly is in the range of torsion bar tube of the rear axle.

350CHF = £250, not prepared to pay that as i already have the cooler.


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: HERB on June 04, 2012, 20:09:53 pm
Thanks, found it:

Yes it is expensive as it is a complete kit, wondering if they just sell the mounting brackets and ducting.

http://www.cagero.com/cartluft/products.asp?id=23311&cat=Unterflur%2DOelk%FCher+links+%28Satz%29&search=1

We have developed a new sub-floor cooling system for the VW Beetle. An efficient oil cooling, which is not visible from the outside was our goal. Depending on the cooling demand can only be one or two oil cooler can be mounted. Assembly is in the range of torsion bar tube of the rear axle.

350CHF = £250, not prepared to pay that as i already have the cooler.
      Is there an English translated page available?


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Lids on June 04, 2012, 22:11:43 pm
Nope, google translate


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Lids on June 12, 2012, 17:11:25 pm
Does anybody know the outside diameter of the rear torsion tubes?


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Jesse/DVK on June 15, 2012, 19:56:27 pm
65mm or 70mm. Depends on the year of your car. It was 70mm on my 64 beetle.


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Diederick/DVK on June 19, 2012, 15:47:24 pm
I once ordered 3; two '67s and a late looker. They were all 65mm


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: -Alex- on June 19, 2012, 21:09:02 pm
To me the cagero looks ineffective, like almost all versions that are bolted near to transaxle. Better to put it to front :)


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Jesse/DVK on June 19, 2012, 22:39:12 pm
Why? It is right in the airflow under de car.


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Lids on June 20, 2012, 06:15:08 am
Why? It is right in the airflow under de car.

yes.

Above the transaxle is not the best location, but with the addition of a fan and also a scoop, it does mean you can fit a larger one.


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Jesse/DVK on June 20, 2012, 08:37:10 am
It is not above the transaxle. Pic mounted on my car.

(http://www.cal-look.nl/Gallery/albums/userpics/10013/DSC01293.JPG)


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Lids on June 20, 2012, 09:09:41 am
Jesse what are your opinions of this product, is it worth the money.  What size fan does it come with?


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Jesse/DVK on June 20, 2012, 09:42:33 am
I got the version without a fan. I don't believe you need one because you already have the oil cooler in your doghouse which will be sufficient when driving slow.

The quality is very good, everything is there all bolts etc and fits perfect. What I didn't like is that the oil cooler that comes with it is the Lang/Empi version which I believe it not as effective as for example a newer style racimex. Furthermore the price is high.

I bought it because I'm not very good at creating my own parts  ;D but be sure to check out the topic of Felix/DFL he made a similar one with a racimex oil cooler which is very nice.


Title: Re: Mounting an external oil Cooler
Post by: Diederick/DVK on June 20, 2012, 10:15:39 am
I concur!

Pricey, but a ready-made kit that instantly lowered my oil temps from 90-95c to 78c, ceteris paribus. I got it hooked up through a thermostat and the oil barely even goes above 78c in a traffic jam.

Me very happy!