Title: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 20, 2012, 04:16:43 am I have posted this in detail on the Swedish circle track forum rejsa.nu but I guess it can be fun to share it here too.
My previous engine for the car was sold to Netherlands in order to finance purchase of a Pontiac GTO. A car I have had a lot of fun with and do love. Now an ACVW standing without heart in my garage hurts. -71 stock crank -Custom built billet 228mm flywheel -H profile rods with ARP upgrade from ARP 2000 to best quality Custom age 625+ -JE custom made pistons 104 mm in China Nicasils -E-plus cylinder heads -Raceware studs -Raceware through block bolts -JPM Raptor cam -Composite lifters -ACN alumnium double taper 2024-T3 pushrods -CB modified drysump pump and Pegasus tank -Weber 51.3 -LEE Arnold horisontal fan system with CF shrouding -Turbo Thomas side winder 1 3/4" stepped to 2" exhaust with detailed collector Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 20, 2012, 04:33:53 am (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/June075.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/June074.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/June054.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/underuppbyggnad.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/1-3.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/lobster203.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/lobster209.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/lobster208.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/June056.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/LMSVintern20111-1.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/ARP625multiphase.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/104mmnicasil.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/IMAG0518.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/TTVbillet228mm.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/IMAG0515.jpg) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 20, 2012, 04:37:31 am (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/Ceramic.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/ceramictip.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/LAflkt.jpg) Nope not mine but I have the same CF shroud (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/Kolfiberflktkpa-1.jpg) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 20, 2012, 04:45:55 am (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/withtank.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/LMSVintern2011057.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/LMSVintern2011056.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/LMSVintern2011052.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/LMSVintern2011051.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/LMSVintern2011042.jpg) And the car (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/5761-new_2009-08-13-22.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/9895-new_2009-07-28-8844.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/underbraking.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/20090728086.jpg) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: 71CALRIPPER on August 20, 2012, 09:15:49 am Your work is always top notch!! Lets seethe gto too
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 21, 2012, 01:07:43 am Malmö Dragway Third round out ever and I clicked 8,65. That is just fine for my circle track and street car. Four comfortable bucket seats and real 10/100km mileage on highway. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/MeckrningGTO-1.jpg) Here is Knutstorp three last years mixed pictures. By the way, the CF hood is being painted red this winter. No more watercooled stuff after this posting. Some of those pictures are with my 18 year old daughter driving. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/GRRRGTO.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/2012-08-14-13-02-09__l8d7159.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/2012-08-02-20-32-20__dsc3233.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/_L8D6840.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/2006intsrumnet.jpg) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: jaqo on August 21, 2012, 01:20:53 am Nice cars!
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on April 08, 2013, 12:45:52 pm Love my engine....just the looks of it. He he. Let see if she will do the 100hp/liter goal or not. The Turbo Thomas exhaust with my Inconel collector. Lee Arnold fan even if it will steal a bit of HP. Same with the Jaycee Weber screens. I have fullsize K&N but I might sacrifize a few HP with these. Back to back will tell. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/IMG_2898_zps05243976.jpg:original) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/IMG_2877_zpsf51c778f.jpg:original) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on April 08, 2013, 12:56:09 pm New gen Photobucket....yeah, pictures come out crazy.
I have to find out how to downsize them. Measured my second set of QSC nicasils cylinders. Not good. Something was strange. I made my own templates and centered them with double dubs...still not true. Left them with my specialist who came up with same result. So now they are at a second specilist who is manufacturer of famoius Swedish Folan engines. He sets them up with an expandable center insert, then he machines them true as of the center of the cylinder bore. First QSC set was really nice, runs nice and all that stuff, but I guess this is the name of the game when you go cheaper on parts. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: modnrod on April 14, 2013, 04:22:35 am Gday Frallan.
My daughter also has one of those cars you call a Pontiac, although hers is the local Holden SS 6.3L version. Those things go hard all stock, nothing like the old '70s or '80s V8s, they just lift their skirts and GO. When she heard I was going to build another VW, she stopped trash-talking about lining up against my TT Supra.........when she was little she still remembers being in my last ACVW hotrod! :D The little VWs scare her more than the Supra. I kept trying to tell her this one will be small and slow, just a cruiser, but she doesn't believe me. Hope you enjoy both of them. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Airspeed on April 14, 2013, 09:56:32 am Impressive stuff again Torben!
How 'wild' will the cam be? That will determine a lot if 100hp/ltr can be met I think, although displacement is not very big and heads are, so your looking good to getting there I think ;) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on April 14, 2013, 15:11:14 pm Impressive stuff again Torben!How 'wild' will the cam be? That will determine a lot if 100hp/ltr can be met I think, although displacement is not very big and heads are, so your looking good to getting there I think ;) You have done it again "Willy"........sorry, Wally, :-* It is a JPM cam. 282 @ .050" 15.7 mm lift with the Pauter rockers. I have learned by both own and many others optimimism that it takes some tweaking to find the right combination before a goal is achieved. So I am conservatively positive. Let see. Fredrik Frallan Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on April 14, 2013, 15:16:05 pm Gday Frallan. My daughter also has one of those cars you call a Pontiac, although hers is the local Holden SS 6.3L version. Those things go hard all stock, nothing like the old '70s or '80s V8s, they just lift their skirts and GO. When she heard I was going to build another VW, she stopped trash-talking about lining up against my TT Supra.........when she was little she still remembers being in my last ACVW hotrod! :D The little VWs scare her more than the Supra. I kept trying to tell her this one will be small and slow, just a cruiser, but she doesn't believe me. Hope you enjoy both of them. Cool! Yeah, just build a small and cruiser one. My real goal is to to go to the track with the beetle and the GTO (I love that car too) at the same time. Beetle must be quicker. Not marginally but like a a lot faster than the GTO. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Airspeed on April 14, 2013, 17:57:32 pm Person-nally (pun intended) I think those cam specs are exactly whats needed with those heads on a 'street-race motor'.
Very curieus if the dyno agrees lateron. Keep us informed! Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: kafercup on May 06, 2013, 05:46:02 am Very nice bits! I like the looks of the car. Does Lee Arnold make a T1 version of the horizontal fan kit? Very much resembles the Reichert unit.
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on May 08, 2013, 12:32:18 pm Hi Kafercup, First of all thanks for the words. No I do not think he does T1, but feel free to write to him and ask. Lee Arnold sales@laperformance.co.uk Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: TSAF on June 17, 2013, 12:14:32 pm Very nice work. The car and of course your engine looks great. Have you dyno the engine yet?
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on June 17, 2013, 12:20:02 pm Not yet. I am like on the other side of the world as to my engine, most part of the time anyway.
In July....at least get it running, then we see if it will include the dyno time. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on February 01, 2014, 14:39:17 pm So now this engine is progressing too.
New Thorsten Pieper inserts and T1 tool lifters are added as Johhanes recommended strongly T1 lifters. The composite one goes in to the turbo engine with mild cam. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/53p7gram_zpsd4f33160.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/53p7gram_zpsd4f33160.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on February 01, 2014, 14:40:52 pm ...and an upgrade with Thorsten Pieper pump.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/001_zps5419dccc.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/001_zps5419dccc.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: -Alex- on February 01, 2014, 20:03:08 pm It is a nice pump, i am getting also the same :)
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on February 15, 2014, 21:59:39 pm Thanks Thorsten Pieper!
Minimal machine work, heat it to 80+C and then insert the bushings. Now ready for assembly. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/001_zps83af3d34.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/001_zps83af3d34.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/003_zps8bbd5185.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/003_zps8bbd5185.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/013_zps2f5227b0.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/013_zps2f5227b0.jpg.html) Nope, that blow torch did not do it. BUT the large gas BBQ did. Promise not to tell my wife. She will kill me. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Airspeed on February 16, 2014, 11:31:40 am Nice!
Was looking at the cam again: did you intentionally order a cam with a small base circle? Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on February 16, 2014, 11:36:34 am Nope.
26 mm is probbaly smaller than many but not 1" which I ordered once. So your eyesight over internet is 0.6 mm off. :-) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Eddie DVK on February 19, 2014, 09:30:14 am Frallan,
Can I ask you where you got the dual thrust cam bearing? I somehow never can find them anywhere. Regards Edgar Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on February 19, 2014, 10:04:04 am Hello Eddie,
That is as far as I know just a standard bearing. I know some people do double bearing halves but only by purchasing double sets. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: BeetleBug on February 19, 2014, 10:07:30 am I know some people do double bearing halves but only by purchasing double sets. That is what I do. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Eddie DVK on February 19, 2014, 10:58:06 am Hello Eddie, That is as far as I know just a standard bearing. I know some people do double bearing halves but only by purchasing double sets. I know some people do double bearing halves but only by purchasing double sets. That is what I do. Ok Thanks guys Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Udo on February 19, 2014, 13:09:22 pm Frallan, Can I ask you where you got the dual thrust cam bearing? I somehow never can find them anywhere. Regards Edgar For Type4 engines you need two sets , or + one set WBX and you have one more :-) WBX has 2 thrust bearings in the set Udo Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on February 19, 2014, 14:20:47 pm Udo, you are a fantastic resource of sharing information.
Thanks! Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on March 14, 2014, 09:42:22 am (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/ARP625PLUS_zpsc0a5a8c2.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/ARP625PLUS_zpsc0a5a8c2.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/010_zps53346cd8.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/010_zps53346cd8.jpg.html) Slowly slowly progress. Double Blue top Facet pumps. Oberg large prefilter AND a real AN8 connection in the tank. Not a fake adaptor with a tiny hole in the bottom. Then I drilled out 11 mm and welded on a large hole connector. The ARP bolts are once again upgraded from ARP 2000 to ARP 3,5 and now the best Carillo replacement to ARP 625Plus. Best option if you (I) insist on running cheap H profile rods. Carillo or Pauter would have been better. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on March 16, 2014, 21:10:32 pm Dubbla pumpar och Oberg förfilter (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/006_zpsdff0d90c.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/006_zpsdff0d90c.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/009_zps956e71ec.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/009_zps956e71ec.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on April 23, 2014, 19:52:15 pm Engine is taking shape.
All small details are taking a lot of time but I enjoy it. The CF fan housing had to be swapped for my regular one, as I needed to modify it a lot to fit the Engine Plus heads. Next week it is time for final assembly. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/009_zpsd62e9002.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/009_zpsd62e9002.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on May 22, 2014, 20:57:57 pm Did a mini sump out of a CB T1.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/003_zpscfaad634.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/003_zpscfaad634.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/004_zpsb80ef52b.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/004_zpsb80ef52b.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/006_zpsa28549e6.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/006_zpsa28549e6.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on June 08, 2014, 15:56:58 pm Love my ring gap grinder.
Square nice grinding and pretty easy to handle. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/007_zps59ccc576.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/007_zps59ccc576.jpg.html) Do NOT love ring locks. Best for duarbility but these were 10X more difficult than the spirolocks. Mahle has nice and easy one but JE made it very tough. Plus 1. 0 and 1.2 mm rings are pretty difficult to hande with the ring compressor. I have to build myself a new ring compressor tool. later...... (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/11_zps1c325036.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/11_zps1c325036.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/12_zps1846cc39.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/12_zps1846cc39.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 06, 2014, 19:50:45 pm (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/001_zps1f28932d.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/001_zps1f28932d.jpg.html)
A bit of progress last couple of days. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 07, 2014, 17:57:22 pm ...and exhaust in place.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/003_zps366c75b1.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/003_zps366c75b1.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: modnrod on August 07, 2014, 20:27:35 pm Mmmmm! Shiny! 8)
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 09, 2014, 16:00:50 pm Finally mated and home with Mummy.
Plenty to go but it is still a nice milestone. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/582541001_zps8e0c97f7.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/582541001_zps8e0c97f7.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 13, 2014, 20:19:58 pm Details Details
It really takes time but that is no surprise. Anyway, rear cover plate, few more oil lines and electricla connections, then I will fire it up prior to doing interior with insulation and rugs....plus more. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/009_zps493d028f.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/009_zps493d028f.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/004_zpsbbc1b60b.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/004_zpsbbc1b60b.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/010_zps5dffb6e4.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/010_zps5dffb6e4.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/001_zps0debebbd.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/001_zps0debebbd.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/005_zpsed94fd56.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/005_zpsed94fd56.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: BeetleBug on August 14, 2014, 07:30:48 am Looks like business if you ask me. Keep on with the good work and thank you sharing your pictures.
-BB- Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 16, 2014, 13:22:09 pm Today I made a "redneck" oil primer.
Now it did work although the TIV pump would not be fully tight. I got 20 psi directly with a hand drill. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/008_zps07bc6dd9.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/008_zps07bc6dd9.jpg.html) Connected a gauge temporaily right by the engine so I could see it better. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/009_zpse756da39.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/009_zpse756da39.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: modnrod on August 16, 2014, 22:33:17 pm Today I made a "redneck" oil primer. If that was the case you'd be driving your oil pump with a small block, not a drill. ;) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on August 28, 2014, 19:42:13 pm I know, a lot of engine pictures and little action.
I was asked recently if I was not going to start soon...... no hurry. This time it is different. I will put almost all things in place prior to pushing the button. Today an idea came true. 4 X vacuum gauges mounted in the engine bay. Ahh, plus my remote starter button. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/004_zpsd05d9e25.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/004_zpsd05d9e25.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 13, 2014, 00:03:51 am http://youtu.be/J3Td2bSz9Sw
All well except my idea about the four gauges. Or I mean windshieldwipers...kind off....like. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: andy198712 on September 13, 2014, 11:03:12 am you might need a dampener on the vac line, my carb balencer uses them, think there just needle valves, but without them it'll be all over the place ;D
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 13, 2014, 11:59:21 am you might need a dampener on the vac line, my carb balencer uses them, think there just needle valves, but without them it'll be all over the place ;D Thanks Andy! You give me hope. I had just told myself to connect them all together and just look pretty but now I am interested again. So you mean that by just restricting (adjustable needle) in the line, it might work? You are right, there has to be some way. I was initially thinking more of a small chamber that blances out the pulse. Now this is not main focus right now. I can get her to run pretty good just by ear, for the time being. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: jaqo on September 13, 2014, 14:07:47 pm Frederic - just install a small orfice, for example an idle jet - in every vacuum line close to the manifold and it will be ok (it surely will pulse but not like this). In my "carb tune" vaccum carb synchro tool the jet size is less then 1mm.
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 13, 2014, 17:42:03 pm Excellent! I will try. I have a bunch of old small N2O nozzles lying around. Will most likely do.
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: andy198712 on September 13, 2014, 20:32:48 pm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/291228901400?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108
thats like the one i have, see the T pieces, with the knob on top, thats just a variable restricter, with it wound out, the needle is all over the shop (like your video) you wind it in so it settles, but not so much its locked off. if that makes sense? Should work fine once sorted, the jet idea sounds like it will work fine also! as the the brass barb on the gauge has a hole about the size of a pin in it also. if your jet idea doesn't work, i'm pretty sure you can buy those little valves for fish tanks, to control the flow of air going into those bubble stones (airstone) if you have a fish shop near to you.... Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 17, 2014, 19:49:37 pm Low RPM brag? 16 mm lift and top duration but still 500-600 RPM with response. 45F10 idle jet surprised me. 55F10 was way too rich. Now pretty responsive on the needle jets with approx 1/2 turn open. Maybe the JPM Raptor venturi rings makes it get that extra strong signal? http://youtu.be/SRFD4zKGM3k Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 17, 2014, 19:51:28 pm By the way. Made some 1 mm nozzles for the vacuum meters but they still do the windshield wiper dance.
I will try the aquarium restrictor trick later. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: cel on September 17, 2014, 21:25:43 pm Hi!
You could use one "stellring"with a longer screw - sorry dont know the name in english : http://www.froehlich-stellringe.de/din705.htm Nice greetings! Marcel Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: jaqo on September 18, 2014, 01:24:13 am Low RPM brag? 16 mm lift and top duration but still 500-600 RPM with response. Try smaller jets but if these vacuum gauges are very sensitive then they will dance - vacuum pulsation in the intake of such engine is huge. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 18, 2014, 06:28:09 am Hi! You could use one "stellring"with a longer screw - sorry dont know the name in english : http://www.froehlich-stellringe.de/din705.htm Nice greetings! Marcel Hello Marcel, I would call the Stellringe a shaft locking collar. Now where and why to use that with a longer screw, I do not understand? Are you referring in some way to my idling or the vacuum gauges? greeting to you too Marcel! Frallan Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 18, 2014, 06:30:50 am [/quote] I could do 500rpms no problem with stock ida's. Lift 16mm+ scat c85 cam. Now with injection I could go lower;p Try smaller jets but if these vacuum gauges are very sensitive then they will dance - vacuum pulsation in the intake of such engine is huge. [/quote] OK, cool! I thought it was pretty nice and I do not recall other than almost stock engines tick away so comfortably like a 10 liter diesel. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: andy198712 on September 18, 2014, 13:39:15 pm By the way. Made some 1 mm nozzles for the vacuum meters but they still do the windshield wiper dance. I will try the aquarium restrictor trick later. yeah i think you wanna be a fair bit smaller then 1mm, or use the restrictor thing :) my balancers use both, and are all over the shop till i wind in the "dampeners" Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 18, 2014, 13:57:10 pm @Marcel, now I got it!
With the help of andy198712. A small lockring with a longer screw to clamp the hose. YEAHH! I have small "Stellringe" in some of my boxes and probably a longer M3 screw to make it reach. In fact I have Chemical Engineering schooling and I should have thought about labclamps. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/Untitled_zps3fb9a6f4.png) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/Untitled_zps3fb9a6f4.png.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: cel on September 18, 2014, 19:59:27 pm Hi!
Yes, for the vacuum meters, they are very small and you can mount them on the hose close to the gauges. Nice greetings! Marcel Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on September 22, 2014, 19:54:41 pm My cockpit....less guessing.
No idea if it makes it quicker but hopefully more reliable. Time will tell. Wideband lambda with analog instrument, revs, shiftlight, broadband filtered Knock sensor with profile screen and CHT, oil temp......almost forhot, speed to 160 km/h. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/010_zps21bf1cf7.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/010_zps21bf1cf7.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/009_zpsa0d6f245.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/009_zpsa0d6f245.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/005_zpsa252039d.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/005_zpsa252039d.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on October 04, 2014, 18:55:16 pm Now the engine is run in and then plenty of kilometers in and out of the workshop.
She wants more and more fuel and it is so nice to read the wideband straight in my face. It is a bit like missing turbopressure above 4000 rpm.....yeah no turbo and not enough fuel. I am kind of waiting for the engine to wake up. Then I had an oil issue on a re-used AN nipple. No! I did not intentionally bend that bumper....... I did not even notice until I got it out of the workshop. Looks terrible and I identified it to a wrongly mounted left bracket. Now it is fixed and tomorrow I will probably ream som mains. Lets see if she wakes up above 4000 rpm. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/089_zpsd81c30fb.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/089_zpsd81c30fb.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/087_zpsd364f4f7.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/087_zpsd364f4f7.jpg.html) This one is worth gold! (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/107_zps66010097.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/107_zps66010097.jpg.html) I have even sound dampened and now working on the aestethics, or rather during winter I will get the rugs in there. (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/091_zpsb096966f.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/091_zpsb096966f.jpg.html) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/092_zps784ea60c.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/092_zps784ea60c.jpg.html) Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: andy198712 on October 04, 2014, 21:16:50 pm Nice!
could there be a move to EFI at some point? Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on October 05, 2014, 11:42:58 am Absolutely.
I have a DTA S60 on the shelf and it might be used with double loom for both my beetle and the dragster. Last two seasons I had this car out I started with the 51IDA and then converted to CB Quicktune. I simply like getting started with carburator, run in, settinsg and all taht stuff, simplicity and then later convert. One more reason is to make a large plenum. I honestly like quiet engines. This one has a large Flowmaster double plenum series 50 muffler above the gearbox and another carbon flow through to the left of the engine. Now the scream of the intakes are not fun any more.....I know....I am different. Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: andy198712 on October 05, 2014, 15:13:27 pm Absolutely. I have a DTA S60 on the shelf and it might be used with double loom for both my beetle and the dragster. Last two seasons I had this car out I started with the 51IDA and then converted to CB Quicktune. I simply like getting started with carburator, run in, settinsg and all taht stuff, simplicity and then later convert. One more reason is to make a large plenum. I honestly like quiet engines. This one has a large Flowmaster double plenum series 50 muffler above the gearbox and another carbon flow through to the left of the engine. Now the scream of the intakes are not fun any more.....I know....I am different. I'm the same on both levels, i want to run my 2110 in on a pic34 carb for the cam burn ect and get it in the car and tune the ignition map. That way i don't leave it idling trying to figure out the fuel map while doing a cam burn... much safer and easier as you say! if you have a loud car, its harder to live with but also everyone in a 3 mile radius know when your flooring it.... including the police! Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on November 30, 2014, 22:18:31 pm So it was beutiful weather, wife left to have fun elsewhere and I advanced the initial curve 5 degrees.
The car really woke up. I know have 39-40 degrees total but with 104 mm bore, maybe that is normal. More driving and dyno will tell. Totally different to drive now. Well, I think even coming back in the workshop, it sounds better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP6kPV020EM&feature=youtu.be Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Frallan on March 04, 2016, 20:04:03 pm (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/002_zpssrm3alz7.jpg~original) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Frallan2/media/002_zpssrm3alz7.jpg.html)
So I tried to sell the engine. Only few parts sold. So now I am building it again. yeah I know, this is silly......but not stupid. 2495 cc with GetBackOnTrack Deutz cylinders. 105.75 mm 2nd hand Mahle Nascar pistons. 21 mm Casidiam coated pins. Back she goes! Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: Eddie DVK on March 06, 2016, 10:00:41 am Who very nice, 105.75mm?? Are those the 100mm deutz cylinders or an other size?
Title: Re: My new TIV engine 2413 for Blue Carbon Post by: broen messiaen on March 06, 2016, 12:45:40 pm Who very nice, 105.75mm?? Are those the 100mm deutz cylinders or an other size? they excist in 100 and 102mm but they are the same in al the other dimensions. @Frallan: very nice |