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Title: '67 rear suspension
Post by: louisb on June 21, 2007, 04:37:57 am
I need some input for the rear of my '67. Target for the car is low 13a/high 12s and it will see mostly street use. What do I need to do it right the first time? I figure urethane bushings and SAW axles. Do I need heavy duty spring plates? Bigger torsions? Shocks? Oil, gas, adjustable? I know bus snubbers used to be the thing, but folks are saying that is a bad idea now. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,

--louis


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: Lanny Hussey on June 21, 2007, 14:41:18 pm
67's have pretty weak torsion bars from the factory. A 67 with high miles can be tough to dial in, especially a vert. With my latest build I installed new 26MM bars with no sacrifice in ride quality. I found that the bars didn't settle, so the position you install them is where they stay (this is why I had to drop it slightly when I had it in Socal) Sarge helped. ;) I'm now using new stock inner rubber with JCL outers. Urethane bushings can be noisy. Run stock shocks and spring plates.


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: louisb on June 21, 2007, 15:06:28 pm
Thanks for the input Lanny. BTW, great car!

--louis


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: Sarge on June 21, 2007, 15:55:29 pm
My set-up uses SAW short axles, Type III drum brakes, SAW adjustable spring plates, urethane bushings, SAW 24mm torsions, and Koni adjustable shocks (set full soft).  I was using bus snubbers but went back to stock to get some suspension travel.  The adjustable spring plates were purchased before the 24 mm torsions and I feel aren't really necessary with the stiffer bars as Lanny pointed out.  BTW the only help I was able to give Lanny was with drinking his beer  ;)


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: louisb on June 21, 2007, 16:00:51 pm
Can you still get Koni's for the VW?

--louis


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: stealth67vw on June 21, 2007, 17:30:15 pm
.  BTW the only help I was able to give Lanny was with drinking his beer  ;)

Thats called emotional support. I wish I could have made it down for some emotional support for the Classic. Maybe next year I'll drink all your beer  ;D


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: Sarge on June 21, 2007, 17:37:22 pm
Can you still get Koni's for the VW?

--louis

Yes!  Try these guys:  www.shox.com



Thats called emotional support. I wish I could have made it down for some emotional support for the Classic. Maybe next year I'll drink all your beer  ;D


Why wait for the Classic...I need "support" right NOW!  ::) ;D


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: thehanz DVK on June 21, 2007, 19:18:46 pm
i am from the netherlands, where koni is from, i will have a look at the price's over here for you....
i am sure they still are made...


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: deano on June 23, 2007, 06:06:25 am
Interesting.... Lanny, do you recall at what degree did you set your spring plates at to get your currect ride stance?


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: Lanny Hussey on June 23, 2007, 21:55:35 pm
Oh boy, that's a good question. I built the pan with the 26mm bars installed the way I usually do with stock bars. This proved to be too high as the bars didn't settle. To drop it where it sits now, I had to start from scratch as the new bars don't 'sag' like the stock ones do.


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: thehanz DVK on June 28, 2007, 10:08:43 am
Can you still get Koni's for the VW?

--louis

I tried to get them over here in the netherlands and contacted KONI but they are no longer making them, so when you want them and see them, take'm


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: qubek on June 28, 2007, 10:32:22 am
That’s strange, I bought mine about a month ago, here in Poland. They didn’t have them in stock, they had to get them from KONI. I took about a week. The price was about 80$  each (reds).


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: louisb on June 28, 2007, 13:29:53 pm
I got a quote of $105 us here in the states. I don't think those were the adjustable ones though.

--louis


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: qubek on June 28, 2007, 14:05:30 pm
I got a quote of $105 us here in the states. I don't think those were the adjustable ones though.

--louis

I thought all of them are. What color are they? On Bugs, I saw only red and yellow ones and they are adjustable.


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: louisb on June 28, 2007, 14:28:37 pm
Maybe they are, I don't know. Not sure on the color, this was a direct quote from the place Sarge recommended.

--louis


Title: Re: '67 rear suspension
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 21, 2007, 17:24:57 pm
The best price I have found online...

http://www.eshocks.com/bil_veh.asp?Model_Index=4Q45&Manf=Koni&SubChar=Q