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Title: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: Ole on October 07, 2012, 23:55:09 pm
Hello racers,

I got an engine with Kugelfischer injection and (I guess...) IDA-size throttle bodies. The butterflies are 2", it says "KRE" on them. Could this be Kawell Racing Engines?

Ole

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Title: Re: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: dangerous on October 08, 2012, 06:40:16 am
Yes, that is correct.
Hot VW's or perhaps VW Greats back in the old days.(late 70's early eighties?)
did a feature on them.
I have a set and was able to bore them to 56mm.
You may be able to go larger if you dont need the nozzle air bleeds.


Title: Re: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: Mike Lawless on October 08, 2012, 15:00:53 pm
I've been running a set of those on the blue car for a few years now. I came to the same conclusion about it being Krawell, but have not confirmed it. They are the same as ARPM from "back in the day."

The one's I bought had worn out shaft bores, so I bushed them, then bored them to 52mm.

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Title: Re: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: Fiatdude on October 08, 2012, 20:36:02 pm
Mike --- Your car is gonna be so freakin cool when that turbo gets set in there, not saying that it ain't now LOL


Title: Re: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: Frallan on October 09, 2012, 04:35:41 am
Interesting, I would have said Hilborn if it was not the KRE on them.
I have a set that looks like that and I am pretty sure mine are Hilborn.
Now the only difference is the barrel metering valve casting.
Maybe done by Hilborn both of them?

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Title: Re: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: dangerous on October 09, 2012, 11:23:29 am
I think KRE and ARPM may have had Hilborn make them.
November 1978 was the HotVWs issue that the story was in.


Title: Re: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: dragvw2180 on October 09, 2012, 19:58:39 pm
 I have a set also, talked to Dave and yes he did design and sold them. He needed funds for something else and sold all of it . I think BUGPACK ended up with them. Mike McCarthy


Title: Re: Please help ID throttle bodies - KRE?
Post by: Ole on October 09, 2012, 22:58:09 pm
Thanks all for the information!

I think there's no need to go bigger, it's only a 2liter engine...

Ole