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Title: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Jim Ratto on July 16, 2007, 21:38:58 pm
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Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: louisb on July 16, 2007, 21:43:17 pm
It is an outgrowth of the rat rod movement. The problem with a lot of them is they are not really safe from what I have seen. Not really my thing either. I don't have a problem with cars that could be called beaters, heck my '67 probably falls into that catagory now. But these folks take it a bit far.

--louis


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: JS on July 16, 2007, 23:12:56 pm
Jim, you should have seen the beetle driving(or sliding) around the camp ground at EBI. Front valance and fenders looooosely atatched to the car...
What a shame!


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Diederick/DVK on July 17, 2007, 00:16:34 am
Jim, don't forget the coil just leaning onto cylinder 4  ;)


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: . on July 17, 2007, 01:29:22 am
Sheep enjoys getting me steamed, emailing me links to these really ridiculous cars for sale on Samba. I cannot believe what some of these morons have done to what might have been some decent Volkswagens! And the prices these cretins are asking for what amounts to no more than a rusted and jimmied-together pile of crap, with many of the basic automotive functions disabled (lights, brakes, etc....), but "engineered" with loads and loads of accessory garbage spilling off every outside surface of the car. Some of the photos I have seen of these "cars" (we have to use the term loosely....as they remind me more of the trash sculptures that used to be displayed along the bayshore freeway in Richmond CA by Golden Gate Fields than actual cars). I just don't get the fascination with wanting a pile of trash for a car, and then thinking it's cool.....and then demanding top dollar for these roaches. My God....rust, twisted wires together, missing parts, tires that rub headlight wires, missing fresh air hoses, chrome taiwan engines, jungle gym roof racks hung everywhere, lowered to the point of lunacy, awful primer paint jobs, these cars are the worst segment of the hobby, I just don't get the thinking (or lack thereof)  ??? ??? ???behind such awful cars. Did I mention how fricking awful these cars make the VW hobby appear? AWFUL! >:( >:(


AMEN !
 ::)


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: deano on July 17, 2007, 02:54:40 am
And, they expect car features too!


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Cornpanzer on July 17, 2007, 03:52:51 am
And, they expect car features too!

pee yook!!!

Does Better Homes and Gardens feature mobile homes?????

Well.....it is just the thought process I cannot grasp. If I was fortunate enough to find a nice, tidy, let's say '63 Bug, the LAST thing I would is fuck it up like so many of these cars. And not just because I'm performance minded.....but because I think your car says something about you. Doesn't it? Do these people feel this way? Judging from their ads on the Samba, it seems they do... they boast and brag about the what I find to be such poor decisions they've made. The extremely narrowed beams.....done because of disc brakes and tire clearance? Nope think again.....it was simply monkey see monkey do...all cosmetics. They're not concerned with brakes at all....let alone disc brakes! Their ads on the Samba smack of such smugness and the very essence of the look of these cars just completely turns me off.......take a 1967 or earlier bug, slam it to the point where it shouldn't be driven (weigh the car down with some airbag crap to make things worse), cobble up some homemade RHD "kit" that is a fatality waiting to happen, coax the last few breaths out of some mutant single-port F case "1835" with stock carb, chrome air filter, 009 distributor, chrome tin (covered in grime and greasy paw  prints), some header installed without gaskets, and maybe half the nuts, some haphazard-teenage made wiring harness, just waiting to start a fire, rotten fuel hoses, axle boots that would leak if there was any oil in the transaxle, about 6 degrees of negative camber, worn out (4 different) tires, no fender beading, intermittent electricals, bumpers held on with one or two 5/16" bolts jammed into 8mm threaded holes, no interior, windows that don't roll up, oh....but wait, the roof rack, the bug killer, the cooler scoop, the decklid rack, the the fake whitewalls flapping in the breeze.....these all make these cars worth the $15,000 these idiots demand for this crap!!!



Ok, I have to admit that I have rolled my eyes in the past at some of the Ratto Ramblings, but that Sir was probably the best written piece of prose that I have ever read on the net.  I am still laughing!!!!   ;D


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Fastbrit on July 17, 2007, 07:46:26 am
And, they expect car features too!
Sadly. sometimes they get them, too... ::)


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: H67bug on July 17, 2007, 08:05:47 am
Some people get it; some just aren't able to
































 ;D :P. Just kidding! I like the "custom controls" in the second advert- a normal hydraulic box with cobwebs drawn on using a felt pen. lol!


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: beetletom on July 17, 2007, 08:38:41 am
there was a hoodride display at one of the uk shows last year, biggest display of the whole show!  :-\
if you guys from the us think you got it bad, come to a uk show...
i don't mind genuine patina (faded paint, battle scars, as it tells a story) but stuff that i think is stupid is, fake patina, bare metaled cars so they look rusty.
most of them seem to be split busses aswell, which isn't too bad  :D


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Luftkraft on July 17, 2007, 16:28:02 pm
IMHO the whole hoodride thing is just a fad that might come to an end in the near future. it's determined to extinct as its "key values" are all about extremes like slamming the car as much as possible and having the biggest amount of rust per square inch of tin. as soon as these two goals are achieved, it ain't fun anymore. then everyone will find his way back to the main subjects: horsepower and stance. ;D and there's nothing wrong with patina, I love it, but it's gotta be real.


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Fritter on July 17, 2007, 18:45:22 pm
I agree Jim!  The patina thing has been carried to the extreme.  A car that is found in a barn, an old hot rod from the 50's that is discovered, etc., has "real" patina and is cool.   But most of these VW hoodrides are actually "fake" aged with sandpaper, acid, etc. to make them look old.  And then to top it off, they are lowered to the point of stupidity and usually have unsafe brakes and engines. 

This one is in my area, real nice guy, but the car is a train wreck.  He always wins a trophy though for some reason.  The cool thing is that it's a '60 Euro car with sems.  And Chuck Fryer sold him the wheels!


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: JS on July 17, 2007, 18:50:28 pm
I think thatīs a swedish 59 model. Unless the doors and rear fenders have been changed.


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Jordy/DVK on July 17, 2007, 19:36:26 pm

 Well... I'm planning to get my '51 split through inspection and drive it "as is"... 
 Just plain original, not slammed etc... no changes... looking the same as it did back in the 70ies when they put it in the barn... 
  (I will remove the dead mice from the headliner though...  ;D  )

 (http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/55650.jpg)


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on July 17, 2007, 19:37:30 pm
I think thatīs a swedish 59 model. Unless the doors and rear fenders have been changed.
it has later doors 59's have pull door handles which this car has but you can see the hole in front of the handle for the later verison


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on July 17, 2007, 19:39:10 pm

 Well... I'm planning to get my '51 split through inspection and drive it "as is"... 
 Just plain original, not slammed etc... no changes... looking the same as it did back in the 70ies when they put it in the barn... 
  (I will remove the dead mice from the headliner though...  ;D  )

 (http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/55650.jpg)
LOL leave them in they give it a cheese kind of smell LOL


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Rasser on July 17, 2007, 22:30:10 pm
Rat, Hood whatever.....  they do come in super detailed form as well!

check TeamAngoraRacingīs projects out:   http://teamangoraracing.dk/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=175&page=1#Item_26

While your at their webpage, please spend some time and look around at their other projects - these guys donīt cut corners, and most of their ratrides are more detailed than most of our/yours lookers are.

So what I mean to say is, not every rat/hoodride is a trainwreck!


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Bill Schwimmer on July 18, 2007, 00:06:15 am
Quote
"Gil Gonzalez? Sure we know Gil. We killed him last night. Tied him to the car and dragged him."

no more American Graffiti for you Mr Ratto


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Bill Schwimmer on July 18, 2007, 00:08:11 am
Hey! I figured out how to make the quote thing work.. Maybe I am not so lame after all


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Sarge on July 18, 2007, 00:13:47 am
Hey! I figured out how to make the quote thing work.. Maybe I am not so lame after all

Don't get carried away now  ::) ;D


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Bill Schwimmer on July 18, 2007, 00:16:54 am
OK  Mr. "I still have points but I finally figured out how to use a digital camera & a computer"  no more technology for you.. go back & set your dwell young man.


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Lee.C on July 18, 2007, 00:19:06 am
Quote
"Gil Gonzalez? Sure we know Gil. We killed him last night. Tied him to the car and dragged him."

no more American Graffiti for you Mr Ratto

 ;D ;D ;D, ;D ;D ;D, ;D ;D ;D, ;D ;D ;D, ;D ;D ;D, ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Sarge on July 18, 2007, 00:24:37 am
OK  Mr. "I still have points but I finally figured out how to use a digital camera & a computer"  no more technology for you.. go back & set your dwell young man.


OUCH!!  I would, but I need somebody to show me how to install a new battery in the dwell meter.


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Bill Schwimmer on July 18, 2007, 00:51:06 am
Maybe she will make you watch some sort of Meg Ryan & Tom Hanks tragedy instead.  You will be so emasculated after that you will have to sit down to pee.


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: sheep on July 18, 2007, 00:57:56 am
I think Jim will have to keep watching that movie about the transvestite volley ball team, he tried to make me watch when I was down visiting. He knew every word to that movie it was real creepy :o


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: sheep on July 18, 2007, 01:06:35 am
It was better than that movie you starred in called Dawsons Crack. ;)


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: sheep on July 18, 2007, 01:54:41 am
Maybe she will make you watch some sort of Meg Ryan & Tom Hanks tragedy instead.  You will be so emasculated after that you will have to sit down to pee.
JIm already sits down when he pees


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: stealth67vw on July 18, 2007, 01:57:06 am
I think Jim will have to keep watching that movie about the transvestite volley ball team, he tried to make me watch when I was down visiting. He knew every word to that movie it was real creepy :o

what was the movie you insisted we watched every time I came to your mansion, Sheep? Hot And Saucy Pizza Girls? Didn't it win an Oscar?



Did he have to check that out of Catfish Don's Library? LOL


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: sheep on July 18, 2007, 15:26:46 pm
I think Jim will have to keep watching that movie about the transvestite volley ball team, he tried to make me watch when I was down visiting. He knew every word to that movie it was real creepy :o
Jim just in case some lounge members are interested in veiwing the tranny volleyball movie, could you please give us the name of it.


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: sheep on July 18, 2007, 15:28:26 pm
Hey stealth67 I like your avatar. Where did you get it???


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: jasonx on July 18, 2007, 23:47:03 pm
It is an outgrowth of the rat rod movement. The problem with a lot of them is they are not really safe from what I have seen. Not really my thing either. I don't have a problem with cars that could be called beaters, heck my '67 probably falls into that catagory now. But these folks take it a bit far.

--louis

to me a beater is something that happens due to lack of time, money or both. these guys appear to take pride in ruining a car!! They are nowhere near safe, as far as I can tell. There were a few real screwballs that used to "build" crap like this in the Bay Area when I worked at BH. Same guys that never had jobs, always were filthy dirty from laying in gutter to scrabble under their cars to admire how they had worn the 6mm sump nuts flush with case....
An extreme case i remember.....the King of the Idiots....he had a barndoor Bus...and  did a backyard conversion to make the poor thing RHD and his goal was to get the Bus so low it would grind the steering box on the ground as he drove. Unfortunately, he succeded. He removed ALL of the torsion leaves in the beam, and used bungee cords to retain trailing arms into beam tubes. The only thing holding body up was the 125 temp tires rubbing inside fender wells.  :o
ARE THE INITIALS OF THIS PERSON JM


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: jasonx on July 18, 2007, 23:50:18 pm
$7000 for this?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=479293

check out the "perfect running" 1776...yeah I'm sure it runs great with those gaping holes in rear tin.

I'm sure the 009 distributor and stock carb run great together too.

A $7K car that doesn't have the 95 cent bumper bracket grommets installed? Or how about an operating license plate light (no wire going to it)

"So cool....."


WTF?  ???

I JUST LOVE GETTING THOSE (POS) ON THE RACK AT WORK >:(


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: jasonx on July 18, 2007, 23:55:45 pm
It is an outgrowth of the rat rod movement. The problem with a lot of them is they are not really safe from what I have seen. Not really my thing either. I don't have a problem with cars that could be called beaters, heck my '67 probably falls into that catagory now. But these folks take it a bit far.

--louis

to me a beater is something that happens due to lack of time, money or both. these guys appear to take pride in ruining a car!! They are nowhere near safe, as far as I can tell. There were a few real screwballs that used to "build" crap like this in the Bay Area when I worked at BH. Same guys that never had jobs, always were filthy dirty from laying in gutter to scrabble under their cars to admire how they had worn the 6mm sump nuts flush with case....
An extreme case i remember.....the King of the Idiots....he had a barndoor Bus...and  did a backyard conversion to make the poor thing RHD and his goal was to get the Bus so low it would grind the steering box on the ground as he drove. Unfortunately, he succeded. He removed ALL of the torsion leaves in the beam, and used bungee cords to retain trailing arms into beam tubes. The only thing holding body up was the 125 temp tires rubbing inside fender wells.  :o
ARE THE INITIALS OF THIS PERSON JM

No. His initials were Dave Gillis.
HOW SOON I FORGET


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: stealth67vw on July 19, 2007, 00:41:07 am
It is an outgrowth of the rat rod movement. The problem with a lot of them is they are not really safe from what I have seen. Not really my thing either. I don't have a problem with cars that could be called beaters, heck my '67 probably falls into that catagory now. But these folks take it a bit far.

--louis

to me a beater is something that happens due to lack of time, money or both. these guys appear to take pride in ruining a car!! They are nowhere near safe, as far as I can tell. There were a few real screwballs that used to "build" crap like this in the Bay Area when I worked at BH. Same guys that never had jobs, always were filthy dirty from laying in gutter to scrabble under their cars to admire how they had worn the 6mm sump nuts flush with case....
An extreme case i remember.....the King of the Idiots....he had a barndoor Bus...and  did a backyard conversion to make the poor thing RHD and his goal was to get the Bus so low it would grind the steering box on the ground as he drove. Unfortunately, he succeded. He removed ALL of the torsion leaves in the beam, and used bungee cords to retain trailing arms into beam tubes. The only thing holding body up was the 125 temp tires rubbing inside fender wells.  :o
ARE THE INITIALS OF THIS PERSON JM

JM has a steady job now and only does drugs on the weekends! LOL


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: sheep on July 19, 2007, 00:47:04 am
Hey stealth67 it looks like someone is trying to copy your name.


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: stealth67vw on July 19, 2007, 02:17:35 am
Hey stealth67 I like your avatar. Where did you get it???

From the "Would You Hit It?" thread on the samba rants.  ;D


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: stealth67vw on July 19, 2007, 02:18:47 am
Hey stealth67 it looks like someone is trying to copy your name.

It's probably the Chinese. Them sumbitches copy everything good. ::)


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: Fritter on July 19, 2007, 03:47:37 am
I think thatīs a swedish 59 model. Unless the doors and rear fenders have been changed.
it has later doors 59's have pull door handles which this car has but you can see the hole in front of the handle for the later verison


As I said, it's a '60 guys!


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: louisb on July 19, 2007, 20:37:26 pm
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/368221.jpg)


Title: Re: all kidding aside......WTF is up with "Hood rides?"
Post by: louisb on July 31, 2007, 16:21:57 pm
Anyone read the editorial for the new HVWs? Goes along the same lines as the conversation we had here. I just thought it was interesting.

--louis