Title: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: -Alex- on October 07, 2013, 21:47:37 pm I'll soon get the Berg bus 5-speed transaxle. I'd like to get little bit info about installation and more info about transaxle etc. There was actually a one or two great topics on a cal-look.com about bus 5-speeds, i'v should taken word copy of them.
Has anybody else installed here the bus 5-speed? Installation stories? I once found few installation pics by google but now they're gone, somebody did have a nice billet flange type mount at bellhousing. My car is 72', so it should be easier to install than to older chassis/body. (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/2441032.jpg) Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: didi on October 07, 2013, 22:30:00 pm Hi Alex
I've the most pictures stored from the closed Forum. Will send you next week the pictures, because i'm actualy on Holiday... Didi Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: -Alex- on October 07, 2013, 22:33:03 pm Ok, thank you very much. You can also send them my email: alex.storskrubb@gmail.com
Mike at Rancho told that bus trans can be centered with some work, as you know, with stock berg mounts it is 8-10mm of the center, atleast what i am told. Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: -Alex- on October 08, 2013, 20:50:08 pm I got two documents from Al Graig from Gene Berg:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2UWw5DwHFNJczNHeFEzOUVKbTA/edit?usp=drive_web https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2UWw5DwHFNJTHJiUXVOZnpKcTQ/edit?usp=drive_web Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: german_oval on October 08, 2013, 21:13:02 pm Hi Alex
TheHanz has a berg bus 5-speed in his beetle built by steve's vw shop (LGK on the forum) more info and pictures In Da Werks http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,2130.90.html (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,2130.90.html) grt Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: drgouk on October 10, 2013, 11:04:11 am Length is the issue, 30mm longer.
Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: -Alex- on October 10, 2013, 20:32:05 pm Ok, i have to get forward as possible - i'v been thinking and having conversations with Mike Herbert and Al Craig, there should not major problems :)
I got also few pics from Mike, his Ghia with solid mounts: (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2506/ka75.jpg) (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9228/dzmr.jpg) (http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6995/rf8s.jpg) Also if the berg front mount is not HD enough, i'll make something like this with 911 urethane mounts: (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6817/cyx5.jpg) Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: thehanz DVK on October 12, 2013, 15:09:01 pm Length is the issue, 30mm longer. I did a lot off work on the torsion tube to get as close to original as possible, and The gearbox is now 5mm longer then original, but being a bus box also means it's About 10 mm to the right. The top picture is my box build by rancho and modified by Steve , with a quaiffe and a full alu support , he shortend the belhousing and made an alu mount , mine is also solid mount...picture' s in my topic start on page 2 When you have questions ask ;) Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: -Alex- on October 12, 2013, 19:30:11 pm Okay, i intend to get the transaxle centered, and use rubbers/urethane mounts, even it means some engineering. Yours is a very nice car, what hp levels with such big transaxle are you aiming? ;) Mine is a bit different, a true germanlooker ;D
http://www.germanlook.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11248 I have rather longer ratios, but still shorter 3-4 gears than on stock 3.875 trans, i went with these ratios ( 3000rpm ), theoritically 250km/h is achieved at 6570rpm. 1. 3.44= 25.5 km/h 2. 1.93 = 45.5 km/h 3. 1.3 = 67.7 km/h 4. 1.00 = 88 km/h 5. 0.77 = 114.2 km/h Stock with 3.875 r+p is this if somebody wonders: 1. 3.78= 24.8 km/h 2. 2.06 = 45.5 km/h 3. 1.26 = 74.4 km/h 4. 0.89 = 105.3 km/h Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: thehanz DVK on October 12, 2013, 21:46:40 pm The engine is 220 hp at the moment , next winter nitrous Will be added. Then around 300 hp. I think, but first get used to the car..
And your project is a Nice read lost off good stuff and engineering, like the nicky's...maybe in the future. ;) Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: didi on October 21, 2013, 18:13:25 pm Hi Alex
I think you got already the pictures that you asked. I installed the tranny with the berg solid mounts, so the engine is in offset position. As noted by drgouk, the length is the problem, not the offset. Didi Title: Re: Berg bus 5-speed Post by: thehanz DVK on October 24, 2013, 16:35:42 pm Hi Alex
I am a little shorter in gears, all weddle.. R/p 4.57 3.33. 25 k/m. At 3000 2.08. 40 1.50. 55 1.14. 73 .77 107 |