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Title: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: JLaw on October 20, 2013, 12:11:51 pm
Hi,

Has anyone got any engine specs for the old pro turbo car the dragon slayer?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Fastbrit on October 20, 2013, 13:50:24 pm
That car was Dominick Luppino's not Chris Bubetz's.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Udo on October 20, 2013, 14:30:26 pm
I think they all had the same engine size 78x94 - CSP , Luppino and Perkins , Bubetz

Udo


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: JLaw on October 20, 2013, 15:14:58 pm
Ah my mistake. Was thinking back to an ocean street pro turbo vhs a friend had. The car I was thinking of was Chris bubetz blue and white beetle. Wondering what motor setup he ran, didn't sound like most turbo motors you hear today..



Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Neil Davies on October 20, 2013, 18:05:32 pm
I'm pretty sure I read that the Dragon Slayer ran an Fk89 cam with the turbo, which really shouldn't have worked, but quite  clearly it did!


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: speedwell on October 20, 2013, 19:53:53 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: JLaw on October 20, 2013, 22:30:49 pm
Thanks for digging that out! Was there ever a write up in Hot VW's or VW Trends on the Bubetz car?

Cheers.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: speedwell on October 21, 2013, 18:57:48 pm
any  pictures of chris 's car ??? don't remember what it look


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: JLaw on October 21, 2013, 19:06:56 pm
Hey,

Hopefully one of these videos works. I've been searching around for videos and info but still cant find much. The motor sounds very responsive and high revving, I'm guessing it was draw through although it doesn't really sound like any others I've heard. Would love to know a little more about it.

http://youtu.be/c6szna2vKmU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6szna2vKmU

Cheers.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: bugnut68 on October 21, 2013, 20:06:23 pm
I'm 90 percent certain that Bubetz's car had an engine larger than 78x94, but by no means should I be quoted.  The car was featured in a 1997 issue of Hot VWs, I think around July.  Doug Harvey's fastback was featured on the August cover as I recall, that year.  I'll try to see if I can dig it out when I get home, if somebody else doesn't beat me to it in the meantime.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: speedwell on October 21, 2013, 21:15:48 pm
that's the old dragon slayer ??? when ken Cervone own it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AwTwA-1ZG4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AwTwA-1ZG4Q)


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Udo on October 22, 2013, 19:19:17 pm
I'm 90 percent certain that Bubetz's car had an engine larger than 78x94, but by no means should I be quoted.  The car was featured in a 1997 issue of Hot VWs, I think around July.  Doug Harvey's fastback was featured on the August cover as I recall, that year.  I'll try to see if I can dig it out when I get home, if somebody else doesn't beat me to it in the meantime.

When it was blue it had  78x94 . later it was bigger and he was the first with an 8... .    Now it has a 2,7 pauter turbo engine . but stored in Warren Skaggs garage :-(   Hope he gets it back on the track

Udo


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: bugnut68 on October 22, 2013, 20:46:22 pm
I'm 90 percent certain that Bubetz's car had an engine larger than 78x94, but by no means should I be quoted.  The car was featured in a 1997 issue of Hot VWs, I think around July.  Doug Harvey's fastback was featured on the August cover as I recall, that year.  I'll try to see if I can dig it out when I get home, if somebody else doesn't beat me to it in the meantime.

When it was blue it had  78x94 . later it was bigger and he was the first with an 8... .    Now it has a 2,7 pauter turbo engine . but stored in Warren Skaggs garage :-(   Hope he gets it back on the track

Udo

Ah, okay, I only knew the specs from the last incarnation of the car... it's a crime that it simply sits and never goes down the track anymore.  I saw the car run in Seattle in the summer of '92, I think it was.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Udo on October 23, 2013, 12:13:28 pm
Warren will drive it someday, after i bought his prostock he wanted to make it ready to race ...

Udo


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Dominick Luppino on October 23, 2013, 23:26:28 pm
The Engine was a 78.4 X 94 FK-89 cam, "yea I heard they don't work":)

Best ET, 9.05 @ 155MPH



Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Dominick Luppino on October 23, 2013, 23:30:00 pm
I'm 90 percent certain that Bubetz's car had an engine larger than 78x94, but by no means should I be quoted.  The car was featured in a 1997 issue of Hot VWs, I think around July.  Doug Harvey's fastback was featured on the August cover as I recall, that year.  I'll try to see if I can dig it out when I get home, if somebody else doesn't beat me to it in the meantime.

When it was blue it had  78x94 . later it was bigger and he was the first with an 8... .    Now it has a 2,7 pauter turbo engine . but stored in Warren Skaggs garage :-(   Hope he gets it back on the track

Udo

Ah, okay, I only knew the specs from the last incarnation of the car... it's a crime that it simply sits and never goes down the track anymore.  I saw the car run in Seattle in the summer of '92, I think it was.


Chris had a 78 X 4" it was a 24 something.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: BeetleBug on October 25, 2013, 07:56:02 am
The Engine was a 78.4 X 94 FK-89 cam, "yea I heard they don't work":)

Best ET, 9.05 @ 155MPH

It is not the first time I see a turbo engine with a FK89 but what I also find interesting is the gear ratios (and the fact that it is was a T1 box) 3.88 RP with a 1.41 4th gear? Is it a typo? Should it be 1.14? 155mph with a 1.41 4th equals around 11500 - 12500 rpms.


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: flatfire on October 25, 2013, 16:36:26 pm
The Engine was a 78.4 X 94 FK-89 cam, "yea I heard they don't work":)

Best ET, 9.05 @ 155MPH



I saw the Dragon against Boom Boom at Sacramento. I'm sure Dom ran a similar number above and Chris a 8.95 .It was the best Drag race I have ever seen. Awesome. :)


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Udo on October 25, 2013, 18:52:05 pm
that's the old dragon slayer ??? when ken Cervone own it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AwTwA-1ZG4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AwTwA-1ZG4Q)

That is very bad to see. i loved that car ..

Udo


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Fiatdude on October 26, 2013, 00:46:03 am
I believe that Jerry Spern has the Dragon Slayer chassis at his house in AZ and is hoping that someone would want to rebuild it


Title: Re: Chris Bubetz Dragon Slayer
Post by: Fiatdude on October 26, 2013, 03:20:38 am
I just talked to Jerry and he still has Domonics Dragon Slayer chassis with a body on it at his house and it is for sale -- he said he is accepting offers as it is just taking up room