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  Anyone ever build a P38 belly tank with a VW engine and transmission. I just bought a Belly tank from a good friend and most of hot rodders install a flat head V8 60 or later V8.

Thanks
Frenchy

Dick Beith's Pepco Supercharged VW Lakester

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Dick_Beith%27s_Pepco_Supercharged_VW_Lakester.jpg)

is it an original ali one or fibre glass repop?  I always fancied building one of these but tanks are hard to find this side of the pond,

cheers

andy

SCTA has so many rules now that it is impossible to get one cert'd to run -- there was a guy building one up in co or UT or KS somewhere and had a hard time getting it licensed to even make an exhibition pass -- -- There was a build thread on it somewhere from a few years ago

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=481841&d=1218870027   LOL

Found another one. looks like it has motorcycle wheels & tires

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/RaggedyRacing/more%20junk/DSC00015.jpg)

  Way cool I will post pictures next week. I will pick it up tomorrow sometime. I think with the VW engine and running gear would be simpler.

Frenchy

  Is there some type of blue print somewhere that I can see how the chassis was build to accept the vw engine and trans.

Thanks
Frenchy

Most the ones I've seen Frenchy. seemed like they just split the tank and then put the engine and trans in there where it would fit/work and then fab'd the chassis to work -- -- the last one I saw needed a midget or a contortionist to drive it --

frenchy watch this  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu6qMH6m8p8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu6qMH6m8p8)

here's a topic on the jalopy journal   the engine isn't a flat 4 but may be the build is very similar

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314787&showall=1 (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314787&showall=1)

http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20449 (http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20449)

Really looking forward to this build and the ideas that I know you'll put into it Frenchy -- Something I've always wanted to do -- but at 6'4"  260 lbs kind of figured my bum would even begin to fit in it LOL

    I have the belly tank in the back yard and I did some measurements. First I will have to finish my 1929 Hot Rod than the NSU than the Belly Tank. But it is OK to do multiple projects at once.



Frenchy

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Hank young is building a sweet salt flatter, on his Instagram @hankyougchoppers

And the Ghia?

   Thank You for reminding me Zach.

Frenchy

Cool stuff, Frenchy. Did you have any powerplants in mind yet. If it were me I would build a hopped-up 36hp engine with a new, speedwell blower. Or a 2165 with all the go-fast stuff and IDA-style injection. Or a 1914 with a small turbo.

     I was looking to build a 2165 or 1900 cc with IDA'S sticking out from the side and doing a mid engine using swing axle transmission reversing the ring gear etc .... and maybe a set of BRM'S as well


Frenchy

May be worth making contact with Burly and the 36hp land speed guys on the vintage speed forum on The Samba.  They may have more information for you.

Richard

   I was hoping to find more pictures from the inside of the belly tank so I have an idea on the placement of the engine and transmission.


Thanks
 Frenchy

   Here are a few pictures of the Belly Pan before and as of today what has been done to it.

Frenchy

   A few more this was as of 4/20/14

Frenchy

These were all I found. I'll keep looking,

Very cool Frenchy!

   Thanks Rick no problem just wanted to have an idea on the inside how the frame was made to support the engine and transmission. I am planning to use a squirrel cage style fan and no fan shroud also using a magneto and oil sump and many other ideas etc .... I am still working on my 1931 track t roadster / NSU I just needed another project .


    Thanks
   Frenchy

You can never have too many projects.

I can search while I wait for software to install which is how I spend most of my day ;)

possible suggestions -- one is put the engine to the rear and leave it into the air stream and use air scoops to cool rather than a fan -- HP gained there -- and weight is your friend when your on the salt too!!!

Here is an old belly I found for sale a few years ago -- figured I'd post so you could see some old school thinking -- i want to point out the rear vertical stabilizer too -- sorry, could only find this pic -- had more but they are gone -- didn't want to get to close and leave any foot prints in the dust because I thought was part of the coolness of this find LOL

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/Fiat/bulletfiat_zps38da5f5a.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Fiatdude/media/Fiat/bulletfiat_zps38da5f5a.jpg.html)