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Title: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 08, 2014, 18:00:15 pm
With tracks here in So cal being open most of the year I was able to take the old cab to fontana yesterday to try complete my NHRA license, after heavy rain tuesday and wednesday I had decided not to go to Irwindale thursday evening even though it was open.
Fontana had an open to anything type test n tune day and it was really suprising to see the variety of cars their from Junior dragsters to Top sportsman and even a Fuel altered.

There were about 12 Vws in attendance mostly getting some testing in, the quickest of the day was Dave Perkins in his wild looking 1303/Super beetle cabrio with a 8.26@164[ I think that mph but was difficult to read scoreboard]

I did 4 passes total and completed my license with a 9.93@134 and 9.70@139, as I had not driven the car on 1/4 mile for over 4 years I started with a real soft launch[2.20 60ft !!! ] 11.00@125mph to check out everything and see how it felt compared to the new cab, all was good so next pass slightly more on the launch 1.82 60ft and 10.30@134mph, had a little oil clean up after this as the dipstick was not sealing well >:( but the oil catch tray caught it all so nothing on the track  8).
With that sorted I got a little more aggresive with clutch but still real soft compared to normal, 1.55 60ft and 9.93@134,good enough for pass number 5 towards my license :) after this pass I found that one exhaust to head stud was loose and was pulling out the head so a quick repair was made well enough to hopefully hold for one more pass to get the license done, I put the clutch settings back to what I ran at Barona last week, also took a little fuel out at the top of the fuel map as it is running real rich and that was good enough to go 1.33 60ft and 9.70@139mph, license passes completed and everything was signed off as good  8).

Now I will get back onto the JPM headed engine and get as much done as I can before we return to England next week.

Heres the 9.70 pass[ a little trivia, my 1st 9 sec pass in USA was a 9.70 at fontana a few years ago now]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lJK2NLvkxs&list=UUs2s_xsGzwZVZCWDu_zWRNQ

We will put some pics up shortly

cheers Richie     


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Jo Clifford on December 08, 2014, 18:48:47 pm
 :)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Trond Dahl on December 08, 2014, 18:59:05 pm
Ah thanks for the update Richie! It is very appreciated at this time of year:-)
Makes me motivated for next year!


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Jo Clifford on December 08, 2014, 19:06:44 pm
 :)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: henk on December 08, 2014, 19:07:45 pm
For some reason i like the movies off this car more then movies from your other faster one.
It looks more spectacular with the wheelies and the car goiing al over the track.
But also looking forward to see the first 7 from the other car.

Henk!!!


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Jo Clifford on December 08, 2014, 19:16:28 pm
 :)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Jo Clifford on December 08, 2014, 19:33:17 pm
The next generation of drag racers from Geers Engineering was also there making license passes, this is Brandon Geers in his new Junior Dragster, he also completed his license passes, congrats Brandon  ;D


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Jo Clifford on December 08, 2014, 19:39:55 pm
 :)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 08, 2014, 20:02:56 pm
This was interesting to me, I didn't see what it ran but sounded good driving through the lanes, its mechanically injected draw through set up, not very common


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 08, 2014, 20:10:07 pm
Ah thanks for the update Richie! It is very appreciated at this time of year:-)
Makes me motivated for next year!

You welcome :)  Glad its motivation, this performance should be well within reach, its quite simple set up wise, 2387 with 8/1 compression, comp eliminator heads, DTA with Garrett gt4094 turbo, the intercooler is gone now,totally air cooled :o :D ;D  car should weigh about 1850-1870lbs with that gone but havent weighed it since taking it out

cheers Richie


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 08, 2014, 20:14:53 pm
For some reason i like the movies off this car more then movies from your other faster one.
It looks more spectacular with the wheelies and the car goiing al over the track.
But also looking forward to see the first 7 from the other car.

Henk!!!

Hi Henk,

I have to agree with you as do most people I talked to about it over the last couple of years, part of it for me is this is still a VW, the other car is more of a machine built to do a job, it has grown on me as its got quicker but if I ever achieve my ultimate goal with this car of running an 8 with no wheelie bars & stock VW suspension :o I think it will be a greater accomplishment than 7s in the other car

cheers Richie


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 08, 2014, 20:40:38 pm
Some more pics from Jo  :)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Ragtop on December 08, 2014, 22:01:47 pm
Not jealous, nope nothing at all :0)

Great runs!


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 08, 2014, 22:10:04 pm
Couple of videos of Dave perkins car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcIoo2i92Ig&list=UUs2s_xsGzwZVZCWDu_zWRNQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK6Yh5uLQDE&index=1&list=UUs2s_xsGzwZVZCWDu_zWRNQ   


shame people kept getting in the way ::)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Shag55 on December 08, 2014, 22:47:50 pm
Nice day for ya! Congrats
What clutch you using on that set up?


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: leec on December 08, 2014, 23:32:25 pm
Nice one Richie and team.
That blue 67 looks cool in the pics above


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: BeetleBug on December 09, 2014, 06:28:10 am
Thanks for sharing Richie. I have to agree with Trond, this is great motivation for me as well. Cool to read that Dave Perkins is at it again. What is his engine set-up? Are we talking yet another hyper performance car aiming for mid 7`s?

And what boost levels are you pushing through your non intercooled version?

Again thanks and say hello to everyone I know over there.

-K-


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Eddie DVK on December 09, 2014, 11:48:55 am
For some reason i like the movies off this car more then movies from your other faster one.
It looks more spectacular with the wheelies and the car goiing al over the track.
But also looking forward to see the first 7 from the other car.

Henk!!!

Hi Henk,

I have to agree with you as do most people I talked to about it over the last couple of years, part of it for me is this is still a VW, the other car is more of a machine built to do a job, it has grown on me as its got quicker but if I ever achieve my ultimate goal with this car of running an 8 with no wheelie bars & stock VW suspension :o I think it will be a greater accomplishment than 7s in the other car

cheers Richie

^^ X2
Very cool, thumbs up.


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Jeff68 on December 09, 2014, 15:45:57 pm
Thanks for sharing Richie 8) I know that it's more common on California to see air cooled VW's lined up with all the great American iron in the staging lanes but it's not very common in Florida :-\  Not so many Aircooled VW drag racers in my neck of the woods. It's very cool to see this. Maybe someday I will get my car to the track here in Florida at the Bradenton Motorsports track. I just don't have the money or time right now to risk breaking it.


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: Dave Rosique on December 09, 2014, 16:51:12 pm
Thanks for the update & pic's Richie & Jo!
Watching the old Cab always makes me smile  ;D
I dig the "new" car, but the original Cab is one of my favorite VW's of all time.
Cheers pal...


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 09, 2014, 17:32:47 pm
I really dont know much about Dave Perkins car, i believe its mechanical injected,turbo of course & on methanol, he built it all himself and I dont think he did all that work to run 8s, so yes 7s would be the goal I would think 8)

I am leaving at 15lbs boost and did see 30 on one pass un-intentionally but its about 25lbs in 3rd and 4th gear currently, I have got a bunch of timing pulled out right now to be safe

cheers Richie


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: andy198712 on December 09, 2014, 18:03:53 pm
Ah thanks for the update Richie! It is very appreciated at this time of year:-)
Makes me motivated for next year!

You welcome :)  Glad its motivation, this performance should be well within reach, its quite simple set up wise, 2387 with 8/1 compression, comp eliminator heads, DTA with Garrett gt4094 turbo, the intercooler is gone now,totally air cooled :o :D ;D  car should weigh about 1850-1870lbs with that gone but havent weighed it since taking it out

cheers Richie

Are you doing water injection instead to control IAT or is it not an issue?
That thing just hooks up and explodes off the line!  8)

Get much interest with you UK plate?


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on December 09, 2014, 18:41:42 pm
Ah thanks for the update Richie! It is very appreciated at this time of year:-)
Makes me motivated for next year!

You welcome :)  Glad its motivation, this performance should be well within reach, its quite simple set up wise, 2387 with 8/1 compression, comp eliminator heads, DTA with Garrett gt4094 turbo, the intercooler is gone now,totally air cooled :o :D ;D  car should weigh about 1850-1870lbs with that gone but havent weighed it since taking it out

cheers Richie



Are you doing water injection instead to control IAT or is it not an issue?
That thing just hooks up and explodes off the line!  8)

Get much interest with you UK plate?

Hi Andy

no water injection, so far IAT are ok, lots of comments about the RHD thing, mostly why am I on the wrong side ::) how do I manage etc etc :D  Tech is always fun as they want to check the belts etc on the passenger side, often they dont even notice the steering wheel is not there!!!!  :D we have lots of fun with them over that ;D

cheers Richie


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: andy198712 on December 09, 2014, 21:15:50 pm
Ah thanks for the update Richie! It is very appreciated at this time of year:-)
Makes me motivated for next year!

You welcome :)  Glad its motivation, this performance should be well within reach, its quite simple set up wise, 2387 with 8/1 compression, comp eliminator heads, DTA with Garrett gt4094 turbo, the intercooler is gone now,totally air cooled :o :D ;D  car should weigh about 1850-1870lbs with that gone but havent weighed it since taking it out

cheers Richie



Are you doing water injection instead to control IAT or is it not an issue?
That thing just hooks up and explodes off the line!  8)

Get much interest with you UK plate?

Hi Andy

no water injection, so far IAT are ok, lots of comments about the RHD thing, mostly why am I on the wrong side ::) how do I manage etc etc :D  Tech is always fun as they want to check the belts etc on the passenger side, often they dont even notice the steering wheel is not there!!!!  :D we have lots of fun with them over that ;D

cheers Richie

Hi,

 ;D Yeah i can picture that, when they "OK" it and you hop in the other door and drive off  ;D

:)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: kielbasa on January 20, 2015, 07:19:37 am
Nice pass there richie. Long time no see buddy. I wanna see you go faster  8)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on January 22, 2015, 21:19:34 pm
Nice pass there richie. Long time no see buddy. I wanna see you go faster  8)

Hopefully later in the year when the new engine is done, be good to improve on its 9.23 best 8)

cheers Richie


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: kielbasa on January 22, 2015, 23:52:47 pm
Is that the 2787 from the thread you made? Why such a small motor? Even I have the parts to make a 3005cc ;)


Title: Re: Fontana test n tune/license passes
Post by: richie on January 23, 2015, 09:20:43 am
Is that the 2787 from the thread you made? Why such a small motor? Even I have the parts to make a 3005cc ;)

No smaller stroke than that now, doesn't need to be that big with a turbo on it, just needs to be real strong, also trying to keep pushrods short

cheers Richie