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Title: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 27, 2016, 13:11:41 pm Hi. I'm about to Give my late Beetle the Cal Look treatment. I've got myself a nice set of BRM's front 4.5 rear 5.5. I plan to stick Michelin XZX 145 x15 on the front. But it's the rear that's got me scratching my head. The wheels are offset ET:15, and I'm guessing that a 205/70r 15 might be a big ask. So I'm thinking 185/70r 15. I've been look at Michelin XWX or the slightly cheaper Avon CR6ZZ. I'm no mechanic and I'm thinking my Beetle being a 1991 Mexican it will be IRS. Do you think I'll have clearance issues with 185's? They cost a fortune so I wants to get it right. Any advice would be a big help. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: pWolf on February 27, 2016, 13:35:08 pm I think a 205/65 tire would be great.
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 27, 2016, 17:19:09 pm I think a 205/65 tire would be great. Agreed, but don't think it will fit due to the irs axle length. Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Nico86 on February 27, 2016, 18:45:03 pm Maybe check 185R15 tires, they would have a wall height closer to the 205/70 you want, but narrower for IRS clearance.
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: vdanielw on February 27, 2016, 19:21:14 pm A friend of mine has a 90's Mexican bug and it is swing axle. Looking for the raked looked I'd say 195/65(or70) or the 205 mentioned previously.
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 27, 2016, 19:39:04 pm Maybe check 185R15 tires, they would have a wall height closer to the 205/70 you want, but narrower for IRS clearance. That's what I'm thinking. I'm not interested in dropping the wheel into the arch. I'm looking for that Arse end up, deep race tyre look. Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 27, 2016, 19:41:28 pm A friend of mine has a 90's Mexican bug and it is swing axle. Looking for the raked looked I'd say 195/65(or70) or the 205 mentioned previously. Kind of got my heart set on a 70r. I think the axles are too long for a 205, otherwise that would be my first choice. Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: baz on February 27, 2016, 20:00:05 pm This is a 195/60 on a 5.5 inch et 15 wheel. Swing axle same as standard mexi bug
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/black82stanggt/23082008265.jpg) Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 27, 2016, 20:35:37 pm This is a 195/60 on a 5.5 inch et 15 wheel. Swing axle same as standard mexi bug (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/black82stanggt/23082008265.jpg) Nice Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Vdubchef on February 27, 2016, 21:13:49 pm Sorry to loan the topic but this fits my question too. Got a -68 bug with long axles and 4x130 centerline reps on 15x5,5 with small offset( 10-20mm?) Was gonna fit the rear wheels with some 205/70 rubbers. What do you guys think, gonna have clearance problems? Ass is gonna be up all the way for some good rake.
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: baz on February 27, 2016, 21:33:14 pm 205s on the car above would stick out another 5mm ie half the extra width of tire compared to a 195 tire.
205s on a 10et wheel would stick out 10mm more than the pic above, 5mm for the tire and 5mm less et. 205s on a 20et wheel would sit in same place as the pic above, the extra 5mm of tire stick out would be evened out by the 5mm greater et Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 27, 2016, 22:24:05 pm 205s on the car above would stick out another 5mm ie half the extra width of tire compared to a 195 tire. 205s on a 10et wheel would stick out 10mm more than the pic above, 5mm for the tire and 5mm less et. 205s on a 20et wheel would sit in same place as the pic above, the extra 5mm of tire stick out would be evened out by the 5mm greater et thats interesting Baz. I think the tape measure will have to come out for this one. I'm betting 185/70r will be a nice snug fit. I think the 205 will fowl the arch. 205s on the car above would stick out another 5mm ie half the extra width of tire compared to a 195 tire. 205s on a 10et wheel would stick out 10mm more than the pic above, 5mm for the tire and 5mm less et. 205s on a 20et wheel would sit in same place as the pic above, the extra 5mm of tire stick out would be evened out by the 5mm greater et 205s on a 10et wheel would stick out 10mm more than the pic above, 5mm for the tire and 5mm less et. 205s on a 20et wheel would sit in same place as the pic above, the extra 5mm of tire stick out would be evened out by the 5mm greater et [/quote] Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Zach Gomulka on February 28, 2016, 01:52:20 am 195/70's?
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Paul Bahnstormerz on February 28, 2016, 12:08:24 pm 195 was the biggest I got under a long axle'd bug
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 28, 2016, 12:29:40 pm 195 was the biggest I got under a long axle'd bug Was that a 65r or 70r?Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: richie on February 28, 2016, 12:57:55 pm Its the wheel choice that messes it up, this is a "long axle" IRS car at close to stock height with 205/70/15 on and clears easily both sides, inner and outer. I would try a tyre shop to see if they have a old scrap 195/65[ or similar to give you idea] they could fit on your wheel so you can check fit on the car before spending out on new tyres :)
cheers Richie Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: leec on February 28, 2016, 13:19:45 pm That's stock width IRS Richie?
No mods to trailing arms or anything? Lee Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: richie on February 28, 2016, 13:21:37 pm That's stock width IRS Richie? No mods to trailing arms or anything? Lee Yep totally stock width :) Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Vdubchef on February 28, 2016, 13:55:22 pm Whats the offset on those wheels richie?
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: richie on February 28, 2016, 13:57:42 pm Whats the offset on those wheels richie? ET30 :) Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Vdubchef on February 28, 2016, 14:04:03 pm I have now 195/60 on those same centerline repros, and one outer click lowered. They fit without problems. Gonna lift it to stock thou on the rear.
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on February 28, 2016, 15:58:06 pm Its the wheel choice that messes it up, this is a "long axle" IRS car at close to stock height with 205/70/15 on and clears easily both sides, inner and outer. I would try a tyre shop to see if they have a old scrap 195/65[ or similar to give you idea] they could fit on your wheel so you can check fit on the car before spending out on new tyres :) cheers Richie Dude! That's genius! I didn't think of doing the obvious. I'll be down the scrap yard tomorrow. Thanks ;) Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: 56BLITZ on March 01, 2016, 03:42:04 am I think a 205/65 tire would be great. Agreed, but don't think it will fit due to the irs axle length. I just put a pair of 205/65r15 Continentals on the back of my '70 . . . Late-style 15X6 Porsche (Fuchs) alloys . . . they fit fine and look nice! Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on March 01, 2016, 21:05:44 pm I think a 205/65 tire would be great. Agreed, but don't think it will fit due to the irs axle length. I just put a pair of 205/65r15 Continentals on the back of my '70 . . . Late-style 15X6 Porsche (Fuchs) alloys . . . they fit fine and look nice! Long axels? Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: 56BLITZ on March 02, 2016, 19:29:39 pm I think a 205/65 tire would be great. Agreed, but don't think it will fit due to the irs axle length. I just put a pair of 205/65r15 Continentals on the back of my '70 . . . Late-style 15X6 Porsche (Fuchs) alloys . . . they fit fine and look nice! Long axels? Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Martin S. on March 02, 2016, 19:41:10 pm IRS track and late Swing track are the same at 53.1" while early Swings are 50.7" track.
Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Erlend / bug66 on March 02, 2016, 20:58:01 pm Whats the offset on those wheels richie? ET30 :) Same wheels and 215/65 M&H DOT slicks is as big as you can go on long axles / IRS. Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: neil68 on March 03, 2016, 05:54:54 am A friend of mine has a 90's Mexican bug and it is swing axle. Looking for the raked looked I'd say 195/65(or70) or the 205 mentioned previously. Yes, Mexican Beetles came from the factory with the late "long swing axle". I have 215/65 M&H's on my '68 Beetle, but that only worked well after I switched to short swing axles. Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: BeetleBug on March 03, 2016, 17:19:50 pm Verrrrry nice Richie!
Those wheels are made here: ÅSV = Hydro Årdal and Sunndal Verk (http://e24.vgc.no/drpublish/images/article/2012/08/15/20263754/1/990/205300.jpg) -BB- Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Stevo_L on March 05, 2016, 22:28:26 pm with ET15 and long axles i would say 185 is max under stock fenders.
i have 185R15 on long axles ET25.. Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Deadzed13 on March 06, 2016, 19:37:23 pm with ET15 and long axles i would say 185 is max under stock fenders. Thanks Stevo that's the look I'm after. I'm going to go with 185/70r 15 ;)i have 185R15 on long axles ET25.. Title: Re: Novice needs tire advice Post by: Stevo_L on March 06, 2016, 19:47:42 pm you'r welcome :D
but i have 185 R15 (185/80 R15) not 185/70 R15, fronts are 155/80 R15 70s are smaller |